Dear all, <br><br clear="all"><div>Iīm forwarding this email because I havenīt receive any comments yet (Pashaīs exception).<br><br>Any comment would be appreciated.<br><br>best.<br><br><b>Cristian Jara Toro</b><br>Ingeniero<br>
<br>Cel: 6 207 8566<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br><br>Dear all:<br><br>(First of all, be careful with my sentences which might be miswritten, because Iīm not english native and in this topics about earned money or billabe rates, we need to clarify and not to get hooked).<br>
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Iīm continuing this post because I have some questions in order to unravel the issue about Modelling. And Iīll start giving my gratefulness and greetings to whom have written before.<br><br>Here is my list of questions/uncertainty related to .doc document attached by Nick:<br>
<br><ul><li>LEED are increasing his users/fans, and not only northamerica nor europe but south america is very close too, so, rates have to be universal or local? (it seem to me that this kind of filter dosenīt exist on GBCI in projects register matters).</li>
</ul><ul><li>we need to clarify skill levels on modelling. New? INtermediate? Advanced? Expert?</li></ul><ul><li>we need to clarify skill level on LEED modelling...</li></ul><ul><li>Misunderstood: if I pick up a project like "building energy evaluation" (and I alreday made my charge), and suddenly the mandator wants to get a LEED medal: the model is entirely drawn on software, I made my assumptions, and Iīve almost sent my results in an oficially report: the question is, how can I make another offer with Pashaīs cost logical? Are going to be the same hours (letīs say same example of 72,000sqft) to make LEED model?</li>
</ul><ul><li>What software I used to make my models? which one is free or which another is paid? is this going to make any difference with final price?</li></ul><ul><li>Do you have any way to compare "LEED" certification building model hour price, with some "energy evaluation" building model hour price? to make my own comparisons?</li>
</ul><ul><li><u>Pashaīs</u> professional LEED hour rate itīs 60% over professional typical hour for whatever we are modeling without pursuing any certification.</li></ul><ul><li>some countries have very poor thermal standards, and we always are looking outside to make the difference to get/offer something better (in order to sustainability and eficiency) than 'we have'.</li>
</ul><ul><li>competition: small economies where few building are made per year (always comparing with USA or CA or Europe), how can I get prices agreement with my competition?</li></ul><ul><li>is it convenient to work on a project in an advanced design stage that suddenly wants to pursue LEED certification where we didnīt be before (I mean, have been part of the design team)?</li>
</ul><ul><li>can we do something similar to PassivHaus or BREEAM certification?</li></ul><br>I think thatīs all.<br>Thanks in advance and Iīll be waiting for any comments.<br><br>best greetings.<br><br><b>Cristian Jara Toro</b><br>
Ingeniero - Editor de Libros.<br><br>Cel: 6 207 8566<br><br><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Boxer, Eric <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eboxer@pathfinder-ea.com" target="_blank">eboxer@pathfinder-ea.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Thanks for taking the time to put this credo together. There of many out there who support your values of quality in the modeling process.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I would like to add to one of your points:<u></u><u></u></span></p><div>
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<p><u></u><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><span>1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span></i><u></u><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Energy modelers have a
<u>responsibility</u> to influence, support, and engage themselves in the design process as a participating member of the design team. If you instead structure your services as a way to find LEED points after design is completed, you have stumbled and fallen
behind the starting line. Your own hard-earned modeling skill set is rendered a meaningless exercise in paper-shuffling courtesy of the USGBC: a disservice to yourself, your clients, and your energy modeling brethren.
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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I agree wholeheartedly with this; Bill and I definitely practice that here.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Adding to that:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">3.1. It is the responsibility of energy modelers to advocate for and support the collection of post-occupancy
usage data in the buildings we model. Without this data, our models have little validity and we are not learning about how to simulate the way buildings operate, we are merely learning about how to use the energy modeling software.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Building energy use has a great deal to do with how facilities managers operate their buildings. By advocating for the additional M & V, we can move towards
the adoption of energy models as a tool that building facilities managers can use to optimize building performance. This would make energy models really valuable tools with an extended lifetime beyond just scoring LEED points. Maybe we can also think about
offering additional services to the facilities managers in helping them with this process.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Cheers,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Eric<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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