<div>Sorry for cross-posting,</div><div><br></div><div>Does anyone use MS Visio for sketching HVAC diagrams? </div><div>Is it a good alternative to Ms Word, which is somehow tolerable for simple diagrams, but gets really out of hands for bigger diagrams?</div>

<div>The shapes, which are included in Visio, are they helpful, meaningful, give professional look?</div>

<div><br></div><div>Somebody is using Excel (might be lacking flexibility when topology is unknown).</div>Somebody is using Inkscape.<br>Any other thoughts<div>Thank you,</div><div><br></div><div>Pavel Dybskiy</div><div>

<br></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Jim Dirkes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jim@buildingperformanceteam.com" target="_blank">jim@buildingperformanceteam.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>



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      <p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">No “tool” Pavel, just Excel with formatted cells and arrows – pretty unsophisticated, but easier (I think) than learning Inkscape.  I know of others using Inkscape, however, and it looks like a very capable tool.<u></u><u></u></span></p>



<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:#1f497d">The Building Performance Team<br>



</span></b><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">James V. Dirkes II, P.E., BEMP , LEED AP<br></span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">1631 Acacia Drive NW<br>Grand Rapids, MI 49504<br><a href="tel:616%20450%208653" value="+16164508653" target="_blank">616 450 8653</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>



</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> <a href="mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">EnergyPlus_Support@yahoogroups.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">EnergyPlus_Support@yahoogroups.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Pavel Dybskiy<br>



<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 04, 2012 6:18 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">EnergyPlus_Support@yahoogroups.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [EnergyPlus_Support] Tools to draw HVAC diagrams<u></u><u></u></span></p>



</div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">  <u></u><u></u></p><div><div><div><p>Hi Jim,<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">What tool do you use to draw your diagram?<u></u><u></u></p>



</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Dear List,<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I'm wondering if you can share your thoughts on your favorite tool to draft efficiently such diagrams.<u></u><u></u></p>



</div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Is there anything better than pencil and paper?<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">



<u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Paul <br><br><br><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Jim Dirkes <<a href="mailto:jim@buildingperformanceteam.com" target="_blank">jim@buildingperformanceteam.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>



<div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Dear Forum,<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">The schematic I have attached is a common boiler plant piping configuration in my experience, using an individual constant speed pump for each boiler, plus a variable speed distribution pump.<u></u><u></u></p>



<p class="MsoNormal">Officially it’s a “primary – secondary pumping loop”.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">I cannot make the primary pumps shut off when the corresponding boiler is inactive.  Has anyone successfully modeled this configuration?  Do you know of an example file with this configuration?<u></u><u></u></p>



<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks in advance.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><img border="0" width="336" height="192" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CD4283.651E5C90" alt="Description: BPT BizCard JVDII Updated"><u></u><u></u></p>



<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Making me think….</span></i></b><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Why is it?  We routinely use miracles of creativity and technology that 50-100 years ago would be considered impossible or black magic … and also assume that whole segments of society are incapable of helping themselves  or acting intelligently.  Is it a self-fulfilling expectation?</span><u></u><u></u></p>



<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br clear="all"><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal">-- <br>Best Regards,<br><br>Pavel Dybskiy<br>



<a href="http://M.A.Sc" target="_blank">M.A.Sc</a>. Candidate, Department of Architectural Science<br>Faculty of Engineering, Architecture and Science, Ryerson University<br>E-mail: <a href="mailto:pdybskiy@ryerson.ca" target="_blank">pdybskiy@ryerson.ca</a>;<br>



telephone: <a href="tel:647-984-4940" value="+16479844940" target="_blank">647-984-4940</a><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:white"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div>



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