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The IIBSE IDP_overview.pdf document attached provides a detailed
framework for planning the energy simulation stages. <br>
We have been using this type of framework, adjusted for the requirements
of each projects, since 2001. It is difficult to provide a
"typical" fee structure as each design team/owner will have
different goals. <br>
As an example, an averaged sized secondary high school might allow for
100 hours for the modeling/reporting for the integrated design process
from concept through design development to tender phase. <br><br>
We rarely provide a fee proposal for final LEED modelling until project
has completed the tender phase. Too much can change from final
design to final tender documents. <br><br>
We provide an estimate at the beginning of the project. The client
is welcome to set a different contract for final LEED modelling.
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An averaged size secondary high school would take about 100s hour for
final LEED modelling depending on how much has changed over the course of
the design process. <br><br>
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At 06:19 PM 11/05/2012, Fonner, Nicholas wrote:<br>
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I would like to see an explanation on the approach for estimation of
effort and cost on the various phases throughout a typical project.
The effort for each stage is fairly easy to establish, but it has been
difficult to account for iterations within the life of the project.
It may be the case where energy modeling is not given the same
consideration as the design teams when large changes require large rework
effort. Does anyone have information that could help establish a
fee structure for projects that start early and reoccur throughout the
project phases? The push for integrated building performance in the
future is forcing building performance simulation and energy management
to the center of design focus. The original response from Nick,
Bill, and Pasha is a great resource that hopefully gets a lot of
attention.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
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<b>Nic Fonner<br>
</b>Energy Modeling Group<br>
<b>Henneman </b>Engineering, Inc. | energy. focused.<br>
1605 South State Street, Champaign, IL 61820<br>
V 217.359.1514 | F 217.359.9354 | C<br>
<a href="http://www.henneman.com/">www.henneman.com</a> |
<a href="mailto:nfonner@henneman.com"><u>nfonner@henneman.com</a><br>
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