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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Just to add another data point, this is frim a March 2010 ASHRAE Journal Article.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:1.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#632423'>Nathan Miller, PE, LEED AP BD+C<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt'><i><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Mechanical Engineer/Senior Energy Analyst<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:8.0pt;line-height:115%'><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#632423'>O </span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>206-285-7100</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#BFAB7F'> </span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>| </span><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#632423'>D</span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#A50021'> </span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>206-788-4577</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#BFAB7F'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:3.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.rushingco.com/"><b><i><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#632423'>www.rushingco.com</span></i></b></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Shaun Martin [mailto:smartin@shaunmartinconsulting.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 05, 2012 10:29 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Samuel Brunswick'; 'Nathan Miller'<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Jill Dalglish'; bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Bldg-sim] energy savings from 2001 to 2004 90.1<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>This is from an ASHRAE Journal article in Jan 2008.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Shaun</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Shaun Martin LEED AP<br>Principal<br>Shaun Martin Consulting<br>2060 Pine Street, Vancouver BC V6J 4P8<br>604-789-1095<br><a href="mailto:smartin@shaunmartinconsulting.com">smartin@shaunmartinconsulting.com</a><br>member CAGBC, ASHRAE</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a> [<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Samuel Brunswick<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 04, 2012 3:30 PM<br><b>To:</b> Nathan Miller<br><b>Cc:</b> Jill Dalglish; <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] energy savings from 2001 to 2004 90.1</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Jill,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I'm resending my reply because it got bounced from the mailing list because I sent it from my other email by mistake. Sorry for clogging your inbox.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Here's the original:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Pacific Northwest National Laboratory (PNNL) released a report "Analysis of Energy Saving Impacts of ASHRAE 90.1-2004 for the State of New York" that compares ASHRAE 90.1-2001 vs 2004. For school buildings in three different cities in New York they found percent savings in site energy use of around 7%. You can find the report here: <a href="http://www.energycodes.gov/publications/techassist.stm">http://www.energycodes.gov/publications/techassist.stm</a>.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p> PNNL also did a similar report for some Gulf Coast cities, "Analyis of Energy Saving Impacts of New Commercial Codes for the Gulf Coast", comparing ASHRAE 90.1-1975 vs 2001 vs 2004 that can be found at the same link. They found incremental improvements for school buildings of around 7-10%.<o:p></o:p></p><p>They also recently released a report, "Achieving the 30% Goal: Energy and Coast Savings Analysis of ASHRAE Standard 90.1-2010", looking at nationwide energy savings for different building types from ASHRAE 2004 vs 2010. That one can be found here: <a href="http://www.energycodes.gov/publications/research/documents/codes/PNNL-20405.pdf">http://www.energycodes.gov/publications/research/documents/codes/PNNL-20405.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></p><p>Hope this helps,<o:p></o:p></p><p>Sam<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Nathan Miller <<a href="mailto:nathanm@rushingco.com">nathanm@rushingco.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I swear I’ve seen some graphs before showing the progression of 90.1 and the relative savings between cycles. It is, of course, highly dependent on your building type and climate.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Here are some useful links to DOE reports that will probably help you (check out the “Determinations” for quantitative comparisons):</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="http://www.energycodes.gov/analysis/#savingsEstimates" target="_blank">http://www.energycodes.gov/analysis/#savingsEstimates</a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>This one specifically compares 90.1-1999 with 90.1-2004 for commercial buildings, which is the closest I could find to your specific request (2001 is just 1999 + addenda, isn’t it?).<br><a href="http://www.energycodes.gov/status/documents/determinations_com_dif04.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.energycodes.gov/status/documents/determinations_com_dif04.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:1.0pt;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#632423'>Nathan Miller, PE, LEED AP BD+C</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:4.0pt;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><i><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Mechanical Engineer/Senior Energy Analyst</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:8.0pt;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:115%'><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#632423'>O </span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><a href="tel:206-285-7100" target="_blank">206-285-7100</a><span style='color:#BFAB7F'> </span>| <b><span style='color:#632423'>D</span></b><span style='color:#A50021'> </span><a href="tel:206-788-4577" target="_blank">206-788-4577</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:3.0pt;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.rushingco.com/" target="_blank"><b><i><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#632423'>www.rushingco.com</span></i></b></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jill Dalglish<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 04, 2012 10:40 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] energy savings from 2001 to 2004 90.1</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hello,<br><br>Does anyone have a feel for a percentage savings going from the 90.1-2001 to 90.1-2004? For example, if a school building achieved a 38% savings over the 2004 code, what would the estimated savings range be as compared to the 2001 code?<br><br>Thank you,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#663366'>Jill Dalglish<br>Dalglish Daylighting</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Bldg-sim mailing list<br><a href="http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/bldg-sim-onebuilding.org" target="_blank">http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/bldg-sim-onebuilding.org</a><br>To unsubscribe from this mailing list send a blank message to <a href="mailto:BLDG-SIM-UNSUBSCRIBE@ONEBUILDING.ORG">BLDG-SIM-UNSUBSCRIBE@ONEBUILDING.ORG</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>