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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">A follow up for Robert and others:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I recall Robert mentioning he’s new with eQuest so my response was probably a bit cryptic, and I happen to have a model open and appropriate for illustrating
what I’m talking about. This is a good opportunity to clarify my advice for reheat systems and share some more tidbits all eQuest users should be aware of.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Recognizing this is [bldg-sim], what follows is eQuest-specific procedure/advice geared for new/intermediate users:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">REHEAT-DELTA-T is an input after the wizards and in detailed mode. It can be input for the system and/or for the zones served – where you define it is determined
by the type of system you are using (right-click the input field and read the associated help topic for more details).
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Navigate to the ‘Airside systems tab’ and then double-click on a conditioned zone (not a plenum) under a system in the tree on the left. From there, you can
find the zone heating tab:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><img width="732" height="626" id="Picture_x0020_3" src="cid:image002.png@01CCFD08.F4822F80"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Alternatively, you can find REHEAT-DELTA-T for a system by double-clicking a system and navigating to the heating > Coil/Capacity tab. My advice below is that
if you are seeing white boxes, then you may want to try entering something.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">In a typical scenario, this number is added to the discharge temperature defined at the system level, indirectly defining the discharge temperature for your
terminal boxes… In the example above I wanted the box to put out 100F heating air per the HVAC design, and the central unit was discharging 68F, so I arrived at setting a 32F delta.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I mentioned “user-defined defaults” / “blue text” as well: suffice to say that is something every intermediate/advanced user really should know about, but
beginners can comfortably put off to learn later. It’s merely a means of using the program more efficiently. Again, instructions are in the archives ;).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Finally, I and others will commonly say “read the help for that input” and I recognize this may not seem intuitive/easy given the massiveness of the DOE2 help
file and how little is in the actual eQuest help file. This comes up often, so here’s a quick visual of what some of us are getting at:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><img width="806" height="297" id="Picture_x0020_10" src="cid:image001.png@01CCFD1D.EBE00DB0"></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Almost EVERY input field has a corresponding help entry in the various help resources that come with eQuest. You can most easily find them by right-clicking
the field you want to learn more about for a context menu, then mousing over the first item: “Item Help” This will bring up one or more references that will bring you straight to something pertinent to what you’re looking at, most of the time. All eQuest
users are ultimately self-taught to some extent, and this way of using the resources at your fingertips is something not to miss!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Best of luck!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">~Nick
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><img width="119" height="37" id="_x0000_i1027" src="cid:image003.jpg@01CCFD08.F4822F80" alt="cid:489575314@22072009-0ABB"></span><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Stylus BT","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Stylus BT","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E"><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Stylus BT","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E">NICK CATON, P.E.</span></b><b><span style="font-family:"Stylus BT","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#CC9900">SENIOR ENGINEER<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#CC9900"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E">Smith & Boucher Engineers</span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;color:#CC9900"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E">25501 west valley parkway, suite 200<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E">olathe, ks 66061<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E">direct 913.344.0036<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E">fax 913.345.0617<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a href="www.smithboucher.com" title="blocked::www.smithboucher.com"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">www.smithboucher.com</span></a></span><u><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue">
</span></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nick Caton<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 07, 2012 4:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> CleanTech Analytics; Morgan Heater<br>
<b>Cc:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] EQUEST QUESTION<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">A quick thought: REHEAT-DELTA-T is a zonal input that has specifically caught me and others multiple times for systems with reheat. It’s something that isn’t
optional for some systems, and doesn’t have a default coming out of the wizards so you have to physically enter something (I typically right-click and enter stuff like this as a user-defined default – blue text – more in the archives if you’re interested).
If you leave the inputs blank the reheat won’t engage.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><br>
If it’s not that, efficiencies are relatively easy to check. I would scan your reheat and preheat inputs (if applicable) next: Right-click and review the DOES2 help entries under heat, reheat, and preheat (at the zones) for any inputs you’ve allowed to default/leave
blank – you might just need to fill in one more box ;).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">~Nick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><img border="0" width="119" height="37" id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image003.jpg@01CCFD08.F4822F80" alt="cid:489575314@22072009-0ABB"></span><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Stylus BT","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E"><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Stylus BT","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E"><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Stylus BT","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E">NICK CATON, P.E.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#CC9900">SENIOR ENGINEER<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#CC9900"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E">Smith & Boucher Engineers</span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;color:#CC9900"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E">25501 west valley parkway, suite 200<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E">olathe, ks 66061<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E">direct 913.344.0036<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E">fax 913.345.0617<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><a href="www.smithboucher.com" title="blocked::www.smithboucher.com"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">www.smithboucher.com</span></a></span><u><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue">
</span></u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a> [<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>CleanTech Analytics<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 07, 2012 3:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Morgan Heater<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] EQUEST QUESTION<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#336666">You might want to take the online eQuest course from </span>
<a href="http://energy-models.com/training/equest/course-objectives">http://energy-models.com/training/equest/course-objectives</a> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I found it to be very helpful when learning eQuest.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I would guess your issue is occupancy differences, or deep in the HVAC system like Morgan suggests..<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Morgan Heater <<a href="mailto:morgan@ecotope.com">morgan@ecotope.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I would take a look at your unmet load hours in the perimeter spaces. If<br>
they're high it's likely that you have a heating air flow rate or supply<br>
air temperature issue.<br>
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Morgan Heater, P.E.<br>
BEMP, LEED AP<br>
<a href="mailto:morgan@ecotope.com">morgan@ecotope.com</a><br>
<a href="tel:206-322-3753%20ext%20209">206-322-3753 ext 209</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] On Behalf Of RobertWichert<br>
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:28 PM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
Subject: [Bldg-sim] EQUEST QUESTION<br>
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I am trying to learn E-Quest and I am trying to model a building that I<br>
have already modeled with Energy Pro. The gas usage from E-Quest is<br>
very very low compared to both actual and Energy Pro. It is a hot water<br>
reheat VAV system with a boiler and a water cooled condenser. The<br>
actual gas use is 17891 Therms, from the bills. Energy Pro predicts<br>
17600 Therms. E-Quest predicts 580 Therms. This makes no sense to me,<br>
but it is clearly my error. I have gone over the inputs several times.<br>
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Is there anything that occurs to anybody that would make gas usage that<br>
far off?<br>
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Electrical from E-Quest is 453 MWh. Electrical from Energy Pro is 422<br>
MWh. Electrical actual is 543 MWh. The building has lots of<br>
unaccounted-for process equipment, so I'm not so worried about being low<br>
on electrical. It's not too far off. But the gas use is just way too<br>
low. Hot water is showing up at 3 Therms a month.<br>
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<br>
This is the first model I have done with E-Quest, so I apologize for<br>
even asking. It's obviously something stupid that I have done.<br>
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--<br>
Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP<br>
<a href="tel:%2B1%20916%20966%209060">+1 916 966 9060</a><br>
FAX <a href="tel:%2B1%20916%20966%209068">+1 916 966 9068</a><br>
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