These are great, I wonder if when simplfying energy modeling you loose the value of some software tools? Without such things as windows, lighting, HVAC, etc some software may seem like it is a better tool, but then modeling real world buildings another software tool may work better.. Just a thought...<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 12:09 AM, mark dewsbury <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Mark.Dewsbury@utas.edu.au" target="_blank">Mark.Dewsbury@utas.edu.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font color="black" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font color="black" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext"> RobertWichert [mailto:<a href="mailto:robert@wichert.org" target="_blank">robert@wichert.org</a>]
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, 22 January 2012 6:00
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Jon Broadway;
<a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bldg-sim] Building
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Now THAT would be a better test than I envisioned,
Jon. I was just thinking of comparing models, NOT comparing them to a
real building. Sounds like fun though!<br>
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<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP<u></u><u></u></span></font></pre><pre><font color="black" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><a href="tel:%2B1%20916%20966%209060" value="+19169669060" target="_blank">+1 916 966 9060</a><u></u><u></u></span></font></pre>
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On 1/21/2012 9:15 AM, Jon Broadway wrote: <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">Mr Wichert: And the next question would be ,
“Where do we find such an existing bldg. with real demand and
energy data set already available?.” I would
assume that many such exist, but I , for one, would not know how to begin to
identify one. Maybe the folks at NREL or LNBL have access to such data,
and maybe one from there could kindly respond to your request?<u></u><u></u></span></font><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></font><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, January 20, 2012
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Jon Broadway; <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Yes, of course. I was thinking of a
non-residential one-story wood frame, steel studs, or concrete block building
with one or two windows per side and a cathedral ceiling on a poured
slab. A basement would be OK too, but not really necessary. Either
no zoning at all or a core for toilets/break rooms and open plan office all
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On 1/20/2012 10:08 AM, Jon Broadway wrote: <u></u><u></u></span></font><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">Mr Wichert: Although
I like your idea of head-to-head modeling, I think it would only be real useful
if one could start with a “simple” bldg. for wahich there was
existing good quality energy and demand data set. That way, one
could not only have “precision “ but also some baseline of
“accuracy”.</span></font><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">I like you
idea, but to start small and simple would be key for me, so as not
to commit a large amount of time.</span></font><u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">Thanks for your
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