I have two office buildings with data, including energy star portfolio manager data, and actual utility meeter data. Also I have architectural data on them. For the one I have three years data on, the other only one year.
See the attached for the one with the best data and let me know if one of these works..<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 11:00 AM, RobertWichert <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:robert@wichert.org">robert@wichert.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Now THAT would be a better test than I envisioned, Jon. I was just
thinking of comparing models, NOT comparing them to a real
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On 1/21/2012 9:15 AM, Jon Broadway wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Mr
Wichert: And the next question would be , “Where do we find
such an existing bldg. with real demand and energy data set
already available?.” I would assume that many such
exist, but I , for one, would not know how to begin to
identify one. Maybe the folks at NREL or LNBL have access
to such data, and maybe one from there could kindly respond
to your request?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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RobertWichert [<a href="mailto:robert@wichert.org" target="_blank">mailto:robert@wichert.org</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 20, 2012 12:55 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jon Broadway; <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a></span></p><div class="im"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, of course. I was thinking of a
non-residential one-story wood frame, steel studs, or concrete
block building with one or two windows per side and a
cathedral ceiling on a poured slab. A basement would be OK
too, but not really necessary. Either no zoning at all or a
core for toilets/break rooms and open plan office all around.<br>
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I mean REALLY simple.<br>
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On 1/20/2012 10:08 AM, Jon Broadway wrote: <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Mr
Wichert: Although I like your idea of head-to-head modeling,
I think it would only be real useful if one could start with
a “simple” bldg. for wahich there was existing good quality
energy and demand data set. That way, one could not only
have “precision “ but also some baseline of “accuracy”.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I
like you idea, but to start small and simple would be key
for me, so as not to commit a large amount of time.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Thanks
for your suggestion.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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