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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Jeremiah,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>To respond to your final query first: It’s my understanding the LEED Compliance Analysis portion of eQuest is still very much a work in progress. I’ve dabbled with these new features enough to decide that, for myself, it is presently more time-efficient to craft my baseline models and assemble performance reports “manually.” I optimistically look forward to future improvements, but caution anyone intending to use these features under a deadline to first be comfortable performing the performance rating method without such automated assistance. You need that experience/knowledge to effectively review and understand what is/isn’t being automated. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>That said, eQuest remains far and away my tool of choice for the performance rating method – just not with the present compliance automation.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>From your description I’m compelled to point out that when creating a baseline model, you do not need to create or maintain separate copies for each rotation. Look into parametric runs in the archives and you’ll learn these 4 orientations can be defined and simulated within a single project. Much easier to manage, revise and document.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If I’m not mistaken, most (if not all) of what’s tallied in the LEED csv generator feature is accessible between the graphical reports for monthly consumptions, the graphical report for annual utility costs, and the front-end BEMP report when you look at the SIM output reports. What I submit for LEED documentation varies somewhat on a project-by-project basis, but I always include those specific items. If you’re having trouble finding anything else specifically, I would first check the archives and otherwise feel free to ask here – though you might find a quicker response inside the [equest-users] list ;).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In summary, I’d take anything produced by the LEED compliance analysis tool and the associated CSV generator with a grain of salt. One could only speculate on a number of issues in the models that may have caused the initial odd behavior where an uninsulated building beat out a baseline-compliant building. If it were my project, I’d likely start by investigating whether the models are on even footing (same weather file, qty of conditioned spaces, etc) and then ensuring neither model is showing signs of dysfunctional systems (i.e. inordinate unmet hours), but again I probably wouldn’t rely on the baseline generator to start.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It sounds like you may still be struggling with “free” electricity. First verify it isn’t just the CSV feature acting wonky by checking whether your model is in fact utilizing the utility rates you input (check the graphical cost reports). If you are seeing “free” electricity there, I’d move on to check between your models to see whether your utility rates are defined differently (or not at all) in the “utility & economics” tree. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Best of luck!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>~Nick<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><img width=119 height=37 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CCBE3A.54F98100" alt="cid:489575314@22072009-0ABB"></span><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Stylus 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style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeremiah Crossett<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 16, 2011 9:38 AM<br><b>To:</b> Bldg-sim2 (Bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org)<br><b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] Does anyone have any experience eQUEST complience analysis and LEED export features?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hello, <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>This is my first post to the {SIM} thread, so please forgive any repetition from previous posts that I may be unaware of.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I have a LEED compliance modeling job I am working on and have attempted to use the "Compliance analysis" tool in eQUEST.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The results where at first encouraging, as it created the building rotations as expected, but upon further analysis I realized that the baseline buildings that should be at ASHRAE 2007 where using about 30% more energy then a<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";background:white'> building with has zero insulation, standard lighting watts/sqft, standard hot water use, standard process loads etc... </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";background:white'>The test building that is not at code energy costs are in the sixty thousand range, and the 0,90,180,270 average that should be at code is in the ninety thousand range. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";background:white'>This %30 savings for the building that has zero insulation over the building that has been auto generated to be complaint with ASHRAE/LEED can not be correct. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>So I decided to not use the compliance analysis tool, in favor of creating my proposed building in the D&D wizard, then making a copy that I then specified ASHRAE compliance manually, and then copying my manually created compliant building for each rotation. Figuring that the "Export LEED Results CSV" would be a simple way to average my manually created rotations and compare them to my proposed building I used this feature. This worked great at first, until I updated my proposed building with the latest from the design team. Now when I Export LEED Results CSV it is outputting zero electrical costs for all of the buildings! The view simulation results show costs, and the Export LEED Results CSV shows kWh usage, therms use, and costs for Natural Gas, but leaves all of the costs of electric at ZERO, also the feature in the Export LEED Results CSV there is a percentage cost savings that produces results that are obviously out of whack. The first run I only had the percentage cost savings issue and figured I could work around the one bug, but now that it is saying that electricity is "free" I am very concerned with the accuracy of any of the LEED compliance tools in eQUEST. I made a google spreadsheet that I can copy/paste the Export LEED Results CSV to for graphing of results. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Here is the link to my google spreadsheet with the results. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkGqvJNjrYpldF9iTFlqb1F0dV9nRlpwSDJHbnBpcEE" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkGqvJNjrYpldF9iTFlqb1F0dV9nRlpwSDJHbnBpcEE</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";background:white'>I have read the PDF published on the subject, and am very curios if the compliance analysis tool is something that is known to work correctly? (I would be happy to find out I made some error, but can not find any such errors on my part) </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";background:white'>If anyone has any insight it would be greatly appreciated. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'>Jeremiah D. Crossett<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'>Setanta Energy & Water<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'>Phone: <a href="tel:503-688-8951" target="_blank">503-688-8951</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'>Email: </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#888888'><a href="mailto:jeremiah@setnrgh2o.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:#0000CC'>jeremiah@setnrgh2o.com</span></a></span><span style='color:#888888'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'><a href="http://www.setnrgh2o.com/" target="_blank">http://www.setnrgh2o.com/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Jeremiah D. Crossett<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Setanta Energy & Water<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Phone: <a href="tel:503-688-8951" target="_blank">503-688-8951</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Email: <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:jeremiah@setnrgh2o.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:#0000CC'>jeremiah@setnrgh2o.com</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.setnrgh2o.com/" target="_blank">http://www.setnrgh2o.com/</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>