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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>One VAV approach that I've seen used successfully for larger chilled beam spaces (open offices, conference rooms for instance) that have DVC is to have VAV controls on the air handler supplying the chilled beams, and have air valves that shut off primary air to a portion of the chilled beams in the space when CO2, cooling, and heating needs for the space are all being met, and throttle back the supply and return fans to match the reduction in air volume. Modeling to account for the reduction in air volume was done thru post-processing hourly reports.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Steven<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Erickson<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 15, 2011 6:34 AM<br><b>To:</b> Sami, Vikram; </span><span lang=ZH-CN style='font-size:10.0pt'>Éò½à</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>; near_ej@yahoo.com<br><b>Cc:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] DOAS and chilled beam/radiator<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Eleanor,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I¡¯ll add to the conversation. I would agree with Vikram in that most chilled beam projects tend to be designed with constant volume primary air. It simplifies the design and helps to reduce first cost. If you do want to pursue VAV primary air then you (or the project engineer) should speak with the vendors you¡¯re considering to see how the beams perform at lower airflows (especially if you¡¯re expecting to get capacity from the beam when doing so). <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regarding 100% OA or RA, this decision has to consider a few things. First, one has to acknowledge that the capacity of the beam per its given length is, among other things, dependant on the amount of primary being supplied to it. Often this primary air cfm is greater than the minimum ventilation air needed, especially pronounced in perimeter spaces if loads are not minimized well. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Second, as was discussed in this string, the primary air must be capable of addressing the latent loads in the space. Depending on your method of dehumidification (i.e. typical cooling coil, desiccant wheel, etc.), this may be a challenge with minimum ventilation airflow. You¡¯ll need to consider how much primary air is needed. If you find that more than the Min OA is needed, then you¡¯ll need to increase accordingly. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>After you consider these two aspects, the primary airflow needed for achieving desired cooling capacity and the latent capacity of the primary air, then you¡¯ll need to evaluate the energy implications of at 100% OA vs. RA system. You may find that you need a volume of primary air 2-3 times the OA needed, thus doubling or tripling the amount of OA that is being conditioned if you choose the 100% OA approach. Depending on climate and any airside energy recovery device, this can have a dramatic impact on energy consumption.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You asked some good questions. I¡¯d encourage you to work closely with the engineers doing the design so that you can talk through some of these items.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Good luck.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=3 cellpadding=0 width=593 style='width:355.5pt'><tr><td width=209 valign=top style='width:125.25pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#660000;text-transform:uppercase'>Paul Erickson</span></b><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333'> </span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333'>LEED® AP BD+C <br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333;text-transform:uppercase'>Sustainable</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333'><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=13 valign=top style='width:7.5pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td width=354 valign=top style='width:212.25pt;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#660000'>AEI</span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333'> | AFFILIATED ENGINEERS, INC. <br>5802 Research Park Boulevard | Madison, WI 53719<br><br></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#660000'>P: 608.236.1112 | F: 608.238.2614</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333'> <br></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#660000'><a href="mailto:perickson@aeieng.com"><span style='color:#660000;text-decoration:none'>perickson@aeieng.com</span></a> | <b><a href="http://www.aeieng.com"><span style='color:#660000;text-decoration:none'>www.aeieng.com</span></a></b></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#333333'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Sami, Vikram<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 15, 2011 7:57 AM<br><b>To:</b> </span><span lang=ZH-CN style='font-size:10.0pt'>Éò½à</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>; near_ej@yahoo.com<br><b>Cc:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] DOAS and chilled beam/radiator<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Eleanor,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In my experience - active chilled beams typically operate at constant volume (set to the ventilation rate in the room) and you vary the cooling rate with a 3-way valve on the cooling coil to vary the cooling capacity of the beam. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Different beam designs have different induction ratios ¨C I would look up the manufacturers data. The typical range is around 3-6.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Yes ¨C you can simulate a WSE now ¨C you need to add a chiller and select waterside economizer as chiller type. Not sure why your example is not working ¨C if you attach an inp file I¡¯m sure someone can shed some light no that. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#DCAA2C'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray'>Vikram Sami</span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray'>, LEED AP BD+C<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray'>Sustainable Design Analyst<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray'>1315 Peachtree St. NE, Atlanta, GA 30309<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray'>t: 404-443-7462 f: </span><span lang=ES style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray'>404.892.5823 </span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray'> e: vikram.sami@perkinswill.com </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.perkinswill.com/"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray;text-decoration:none'>www.perkinswill.com</span></a></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:3.0pt;text-autospace:none'><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray'>Perkins+Will.</span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:gray'> </span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#ADD425'>Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:green'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=ZH-CN style='font-size:10.0pt'>Éò½à</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> [mailto:shenjie820730@hotmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, August 14, 2011 10:36 PM<br><b>To:</b> near_ej@yahoo.com; Sami, Vikram<br><b>Cc:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Bldg-sim] DOAS and chilled beam/radiator<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Microsoft YaHei","sans-serif"'>Hi, Neeraj and Vikram: <br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Microsoft YaHei","sans-serif"'><br>Thanks for your promote advice. I'm reading</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Microsoft YaHei","sans-serif"'>DOE22Vol3-Topics.these days and found</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Microsoft YaHei","sans-serif"'>that IU's one application is just ceiling radiator .<br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Microsoft YaHei","sans-serif"'><br>Now, I have changed my system type</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Microsoft YaHei","sans-serif"'>to</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Microsoft YaHei","sans-serif"'>IU system with no separate MAU systems, but I still</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Microsoft YaHei","sans-serif"'>have two puzzles :<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Microsoft YaHei","sans-serif"'>1) The fan control is gray which means you can't choose variable, so is it</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Microsoft YaHei","sans-serif"'>says that the</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Microsoft YaHei","sans-serif"'>fan is running the full power all the time?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Microsoft YaHei","sans-serif"'>2) How to define the induction ratio and make it reasonable? I'm not sure whether the recirculating air volume will affect the fan power. it seems not. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Microsoft YaHei","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Microsoft YaHei","sans-serif"'>And another question is about water economizer? Can we simulate water economizer now?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Microsoft YaHei","sans-serif"'>For eQUEST 3.64, there are two methods, one is the water economizer in airside system, but the weakness of this water economizer is it will add the AHU fan power.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Microsoft YaHei","sans-serif"'>The other one is the water economizer chiller in waterside system, but it seems the function is not matural, I tried , but the hourly report shows the chillers still running in the winter for very low cooling load. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Microsoft YaHei","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Microsoft YaHei","sans-serif"'>Thanks in advance. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Microsoft YaHei","sans-serif"'>Eleanor Shen<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Microsoft YaHei","sans-serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Microsoft YaHei","sans-serif"'><br>Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 02:11:07 -0700<br>From: near_ej@yahoo.com<br>Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] DOAS and chilled beam/radiator<br>To: shenjie820730@hotmail.com<br>CC: Vikram.Sami@perkinswill.com; bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br><br></span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hello Eleanor,<br>Adding to Vikram's advice -- You may then also apply the heat recovery to the individual IU units instead of the DOAS.<br><br>But, an important question for experts who may be experienced with working real-life Chilled Beam systems is --<br><br>Whether </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Microsoft YaHei","sans-serif"'>or not the OA moved through the active chilled beams is completely (100%) Outside Air only <u>OR</u> Whether some of the supply air is still recirculated?<br>I presume it'll depend on latent loads but I understand that for most occupied zones some air is actually recirculated back to the AHU's to control the RH and balance the system!?<br>Please correct me if that is any different from anyone's real-life experience and what Vikram is referring to is the experience you all share? Vikram, your veiws?<br>We are modeling a couple of chilled beam and slab systems but with little live examples and experiences to corroborate on this aspect.<br><br>Your inputs would be valuable . . . .<br>Thanks,<br>Neeraj<br><br></span><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Microsoft YaHei","sans-serif"'>Neeraj Kapoor<br>t: +91.99581.70018<br>Kalpakrit Sustainable Environments Pvt. Ltd.<br>New Delhi, India</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Microsoft YaHei","sans-serif"'><br><br><br>On 12-08-2011 17:13, Sami, Vikram wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>If you are using an active chilled beam, then you don't need to model the doas - just use 100% OA for your ahu.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Sent from a mobile device<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> -----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>From: <span lang=ZH-CN>Éò½à</span> [<a href="mailto:shenjie820730@hotmail.com">mailto:shenjie820730@hotmail.com</a>]<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 04:25 AM Central Standard Time<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>To: <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Subject: [Bldg-sim] DOAS and chilled beam/radiator<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Hi, all<span lang=ZH-CN>£»</span><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>I<span lang=ZH-CN>¡¯</span>m simulating a project with chilled beam/radiator plus dedicated fresh air system, I search from archive, it seems most of you using DOAS (a dummy zone) and IU/FCU to simulate, DOAS provide the fresh air and IU/FCU use the <span lang=ZH-CN>¡°</span>Outdoor air from<span lang=ZH-CN>¡±</span> DOAS, the radiator use baseboard instead with zero fan energy power.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>But the DOAS in my project is 1) variable speed to reduce the fresh air energy base on occupancy schedule; 2) wheel heat recovery with exhaust air; 3) during the transition period, the DOAS will bypass the wheel to provide maximum fresh air to offset all the heating and cooling demand and chilled beam and radiator will shut off.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Now, my method is :<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>1) using VAV system to represent DOAS , enter the <span lang=ZH-CN>¡°</span> Design supply/return <span lang=ZH-CN>¡°</span> flow to show the DOAS fresh air and exhaust air volume;<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>2) Define the wheel heat recovery with fresh air and exhaust air, and operation control is <span lang=ZH-CN>¡°</span>OA exhaust DT<span lang=ZH-CN>¡±</span><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>3) Define the dummy with the same maximum fresh air volume, and also control the cool and heat temperature (otherwise the heat recovery will not work at all).<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>It seems works very well. But when I reading hourly report, I found the fresh air volume keeps the maximum all the time, so the fan running at the rated power the whole year, which results in the large fan energy consumpation.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>How can I make the DOAS<span lang=ZH-CN>¡¯</span>s fresh air volume variable and fan variable according to the acutal IU/FC<span lang=ZH-CN>¡¯</span>s fresh air volume ??<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Any comments and suggestions will be appreciated.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Eleanor Shen (<span lang=ZH-CN>Éò½à£©</span><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Consultant<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Environmental Resources Management<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Tel: +8621-5385 3050, ext:158<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Fax: +8621-6469 2185<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Email: <a href="mailto:eleanor.shen@erm.com">eleanor.shen@erm.com</a> <a href="mailto:j@erm.com"><mailto:j@erm.com></a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.erm.com/" target="_blank">www.erm.com</a> <a href="http://www.erm.com/" target="_blank"><http://www.erm.com/></a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>ERM Chinese Web Page<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.ermcn.com/" target="_blank">www.ermcn.com</a> <a href="http://www.ermcn.com/" target="_blank"><http://www.ermcn.com/></a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>*** ERM is granted Class A EIA License by China SEPA***<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>***ERM is named the 2008 Environmental Advisor of the Year (Acquisitions Monthly) ***<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the addressee. 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