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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Aaron,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I would think you would include these measures as an external load directly on the meter. Each one individually is probably contributing to its own LEED point. However, it does raise questions on how one could benchmark such measures. For the electric vehicle charging stations, what if an on-site gas station was theorized as a base case? Sounds like a lot of extra work, and what takes more energy to make, coal or gasoline? Also, the rainwater pump is used for toilet rooms or for gardening? Last I checked pumping energy to water flowers was not included, though I suppose it probably is not.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Kevin<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Aaron Smith [mailto:asmith@mreng.ca] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:21 AM<br><b>To:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] LEED 2009 Modelling - Electric Vehicles and Rainwater Cisterns<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I’m putting together a LEED 2009 Submission and the rules now state that “Both the baseline building model and the proposed model must cover all building energy components…” (pg. 286 of LEED Canada 2009).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I have no trouble including computer equipment, elevators and exterior lights but we also have a rainwater cistern pump and electric vehicle charging stations. I’m not sure if the electric vehicles should be considered “building energy components”. As well, both technologies actually save energy elsewhere (gasoline/diesel and water utility pumping power) so I don’t think we should be penalized in our % energy cost savings by adding these two energy uses to both reference model and proposed model. Any thoughts on these? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Aaron<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:27.0pt'><strong>Aaron Smith, </strong><em><span style='color:gray'>P.Eng</span> </em><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:27.0pt'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:gray'>LEED® AP BD+C,</span></i><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:gray'> M-ASHRAE, Mechanical Engineer</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><img width=170 height=35 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CC5735.3D2686C0"></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:27.0pt'><span lang=FR style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:gray'>t: (902) 422-7393</span><span lang=FR><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:27.0pt'><span lang=FR style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:gray'>f: (902) 423-4945</span><span lang=FR><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:27.0pt'><span lang=FR style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:gray'>e:</span><span lang=FR style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> </span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:asmith@mreng.ca"><span lang=FR>asmith@mreng.ca</span></a></span><span lang=FR><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=FR> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:6.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#777777'>The electronic message contained herein is private and confidential, intended only for the recipient(s) specified. 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