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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=DE link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I think the manual is a result of the many issues that were found during review the projects. For our first few projects it was not available. Now of course we use…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Currently there is a project CS 2.0 under review and one C&S 3.0 and one CI 3.0 coming…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Johannes<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Von:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Sasa Pantic [mailto:usrobotics011@yahoo.com] <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Mittwoch, 27. Juli 2011 22:07<br><b>An:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org; Hopf, Johannes<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] Suggestions for model reviews<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=627 style='width:470.3pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>Hello Johannes,<br><br>In response to your concerns...<br><br>1) If you are referring to guidance on LEED building modeling, you might consider the following manual<br><a href="http://www.usgbc.org/ShowFile.aspx?DocumentID=7795" target="_blank"><span class=yshortcuts>http://www.usgbc.org/ShowFile.aspx?DocumentID=7795</span></a><br><br><span class=yiv479563814st>2) While doing literature review for taking LEED </span><span class=yshortcuts>NC</span><span class=yiv479563814st> v2.2, I remember that I read somewhere that </span><em>one</em><span class=yiv479563814st>-</span><em>hour conference call</em><span class=yiv479563814st> could be scheduled (for a fee) to provide an opportunity </span>for direct dialog between reviewer and project's design team responsible parties. I am not sure and you should check this with GBCI.<br><br>Hope this helps.<br>Cheers, Sasa<br><br>--- On <b>Tue, 7/26/11, Hopf, Johannes <i><johannes.hopf@dreso.com></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>From: Hopf, Johannes <johannes.hopf@dreso.com><br>Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Suggestions for model reviews<br>To: bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>Date: Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 6:19 PM<o:p></o:p></p><div id=yiv1283038237><div><p class=yiv1283038237msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Hi all!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv1283038237msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv1283038237msonormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Our problem is, that different reviewers want to see different things.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv1283038237msonormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv1283038237msonormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Our first project NC 2.2 Platinum was accepted without any clarification 3 years ago. For the next project, same version we used the same tool, model, reports – everything – we needed two clarifications, had to pay extra money etc. because of missing results, input files, report structure etc. Based on this clarified project we did three more whole building simulation were we got 20 – 30 comments to clarify. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv1283038237msonormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv1283038237msonormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Projects were all very much the same, so different systems can´t be the reason. And due to the missing direct communication, it is sometimes hard to get to know what the reviewer has in mind. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv1283038237msonormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv1283038237msonormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>We would appreciate </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv1283038237msolistparagraph><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:7.0pt;color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>more details about what is definitely necessary (nobody tells us, if it is too much information), </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv1283038237msolistparagraph><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:7.0pt;color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>what is obsolete,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv1283038237msolistparagraph><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:7.0pt;color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>the same reviewer for earch project as far as possible because he is familiar with the structure of documents etc</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv1283038237msolistparagraph><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:7.0pt;color:black'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>a way of direct communication after the first review…</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv1283038237msonormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv1283038237msonormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Does somebody know how much time reviewers have for Minimum/Optimize Energy Performance / how much money they get?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv1283038237msonormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv1283038237msonormal>Regards Johannes<o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv1283038237msonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=yiv1283038237msonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Von:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Nick Caton<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 18. Juli 2011 18:37<br><b>An:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Betreff:</b> [Bldg-sim] Suggestions for model reviews</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=yiv1283038237msonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv1283038237msonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Recently, I’ve had an odd string of personal contacts and strangers alike confiding with me and demonstrating their frustrations over energy model reviews. As an outside-party, it’s actually largely entertaining to hear, and puts a few things in perspective. We are all human, and we all share common emotions when put under the spotlight, but how we put those feelings to action makes all the difference between an easy/productive review process and a train wreck…</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv1283038237msonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv1283038237msonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>I’ve had the pleasure of treading both paths, and I thought it might be helpful for modelers of all skill/experience levels to share a few tips I’ve developed to manage the stress-level in your energy model reviews. A few reviewers out there might also benefit to turn this advice around and apply it to their practices as well:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv1283038237msonormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv1283038237msolistparagraph style='margin-left:71.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>1.</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Do not assume your reviewer knows less than you. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv1283038237msolistparagraph style='margin-left:107.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>a.</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Recognize that stuff gets lost in translation – energy modeling minutiae are rarely easy to communicate in text format.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv1283038237msolistparagraph style='margin-left:107.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>b.</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>It’s human to feel annoyed when your work is questioned, but practice patience. Odds are you and/or your reviewer are going to learn something as a result. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv1283038237msolistparagraph style='margin-left:107.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>c.</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>If you ever catch yourself thinking/responding in a dismissive or condescending fashion, stop. Your heart is in the wrong place (however right you might be) and you’re missing the point of an objective review. Take a breather!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv1283038237msolistparagraph style='margin-left:71.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>2.</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Do not assume your reviewer knows more than you, either. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv1283038237msolistparagraph style='margin-left:107.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>a.</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Do not be afraid to challenge or question a query, but prepare and present a solid case for any contrary position. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv1283038237msolistparagraph style='margin-left:107.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>b.</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>It is very easy to run yourself in circles trying to explain/justify yourself when it isn’t really necessary. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv1283038237msolistparagraph style='margin-left:107.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>c.</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman ;","serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Reviewers can and should make it plain when an in-depth explanation is required.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv1283038237msolistparagraph style='margin-left:71.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>3.</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Be prepared to change your mind! For better or for worse, reviews are ultimately beneficial to all parties involved, because they provide an excellent opportunity to learn a thing or two. Allow your personal expertise to continually evolve and incorporate, or at least recognize, others’ perspectives and practices. They may serve you well personally in the future!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv1283038237msolistparagraph style='margin-left:71.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>4.</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Once in a while, you may have to work with an individual who is truly stubborn, unreasonable and is not willing to participate in any objective discussion. 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