<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Hello Johannes,<br><br>In response to your concerns...<br><br>1) If you are referring to guidance on LEED building modeling, you might consider the following manual<br><a target="_blank" href="http://www.usgbc.org/ShowFile.aspx?DocumentID=7795"><span class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1311797106_0">http://www.usgbc.org/ShowFile.aspx?DocumentID=7795</span></a><br><br><span class="yiv479563814st">2) While doing literature review for taking LEED <span style="border-bottom: 2px dotted rgb(54, 99, 136); cursor: pointer;" class="yshortcuts" id="lw_1311797106_1">NC</span> v2.2, I remember that I read somewhere that <em>one</em>-<em>hour conference call</em> could be scheduled (for a fee) to provide an opportunity </span>for
direct dialog between reviewer and project's design team responsible
parties. I am not sure and you should check this with GBCI.<br><br>Hope this helps.<br>Cheers, Sasa<br><br>--- On <b>Tue, 7/26/11, Hopf, Johannes <i><johannes.hopf@dreso.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Hopf, Johannes <johannes.hopf@dreso.com><br>Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Suggestions for model reviews<br>To: bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>Date: Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 6:19 PM<br><br><div id="yiv1283038237">
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--></style><div class="yiv1283038237WordSection1"><p class="yiv1283038237MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;">Hi all!</span></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;" lang="EN-US">Our problem is, that different reviewers want to see different things.</span></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;" lang="EN-US">Our first project NC 2.2 Platinum was accepted without any clarification 3 years ago. For the next project, same version we used the same tool, model, reports – everything –
we needed two clarifications, had to pay extra money etc. because of missing results, input files, report structure etc. Based on this clarified project we did three more whole building simulation were we got 20 – 30 comments to clarify. </span></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;" lang="EN-US">Projects were all very much the same, so different systems can´t be the reason. And due to the missing direct communication, it is sometimes hard to get to know what the reviewer has in mind. </span></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;" lang="EN-US">We would appreciate </span></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoListParagraph" style=""><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;" lang="EN-US"><span style="">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;" lang="EN-US">more details about what is definitely necessary (nobody tells us, if it is too much information), </span></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoListParagraph" style=""><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;" lang="EN-US"><span style="">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;" lang="EN-US">what is
obsolete,</span></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoListParagraph" style=""><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;" lang="EN-US"><span style="">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;" lang="EN-US">the same reviewer for earch project as far as possible because he is familiar with the structure of documents etc</span></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoListParagraph" style=""><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;" lang="EN-US"><span style="">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;" lang="EN-US">a way of direct communication after the first review…</span></p><p
class="yiv1283038237MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;" lang="EN-US">Does somebody know how much time reviewers have for Minimum/Optimize Energy Performance / how much money they get?</span></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoNormal">Regards Johannes</p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoNormal"> </p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class="yiv1283038237MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";">Von:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";">
bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Nick Caton<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 18. Juli 2011 18:37<br><b>An:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Betreff:</b> [Bldg-sim] Suggestions for model reviews</span></p></div></div><p class="yiv1283038237MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt;"> </p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt;"><span style="color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US">Recently, I’ve had an odd string of personal contacts and strangers alike confiding with me and demonstrating their frustrations over energy model reviews. As an outside-party, it’s actually largely entertaining to hear, and puts a few things in perspective. We are all human, and we all share common emotions when put under the spotlight, but how we put those feelings to action makes all the difference between an easy/productive review process and a train
wreck…</span></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt;"><span style="color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt;"><span style="color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US">I’ve had the pleasure of treading both paths, and I thought it might be helpful for modelers of all skill/experience levels to share a few tips I’ve developed to manage the stress-level in your energy model reviews. A few reviewers out there might also benefit to turn this advice around and apply it to their practices as well:</span></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt;"><span style="color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:71.4pt;"><span style="color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US"><span style="">1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span
style="color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US">Do not assume your reviewer knows less than you. </span></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:107.4pt;"><span style="color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US"><span style="">a.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US">Recognize that stuff gets lost in translation – energy modeling minutiae are rarely easy to communicate in text format.</span></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:107.4pt;"><span style="color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US"><span style="">b.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US">It’s human to feel annoyed when your work is questioned, but practice patience. Odds are you and/or your reviewer are going to learn something as a result.
</span></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:107.4pt;"><span style="color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US"><span style="">c.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US">If you ever catch yourself thinking/responding in a dismissive or condescending fashion, stop. Your heart is in the wrong place (however right you might be) and you’re missing the point of an objective review. Take a breather!</span></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:71.4pt;"><span style="color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US"><span style="">2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US">Do not assume your reviewer knows more than you, either. </span></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:107.4pt;"><span style="color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US"><span style="">a.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US">Do not be afraid to challenge or question a query, but prepare and present a solid case for any contrary position. </span></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:107.4pt;"><span style="color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US"><span style="">b.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US">It is very easy to run yourself in circles trying to explain/justify yourself when it isn’t really necessary. </span></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:107.4pt;"><span style="color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US"><span style="">c.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New
Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US">Reviewers can and should make it plain when an in-depth explanation is required.</span></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:71.4pt;"><span style="color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US"><span style="">3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US">Be prepared to change your mind! For better or for worse, reviews are ultimately beneficial to all parties involved, because they provide an excellent opportunity to learn a thing or two. Allow your personal expertise to continually evolve and incorporate, or at least recognize, others’ perspectives and practices. They may serve you well personally in the future!</span></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left:71.4pt;"><span
style="color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US"><span style="">4.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US">Once in a while, you may have to work with an individual who is truly stubborn, unreasonable and is not willing to participate in any objective discussion. If a review should fail to “close out” over such behavior, the best you can hope for is to document communications so you can later make apparent in hindsight that you were proactive, and pulling your weight to move the process forward. </span></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt;"><span style="color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt;"><span style="color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US">If anyone has similar guiding principles or tips to share (from either side of the reviewing fence), I think it
would be much appreciated =)!</span></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt;"><span style="color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt;"><span style="color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US">~Nick</span></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt;"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt;"><span lang="EN-US"><img id="yiv1283038237Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:1.406315989@web39423.mail.mud.yahoo.com" alt="cid:489575314@22072009-0ABB" height="37" width="119"></span><b><span style="font-family:"sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E;" lang="EN-US"></span></b></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt;"><b><span style="font-family:"sans-serif";color:#2D4D5E;" lang="EN-US"> </span></b></p><p class="yiv1283038237MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt;"><b><span
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