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<DIV><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>We have always used a pro-rated point scale based on floor areas as Kyle describes for USGBC and it has never been disputed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Matthew Larson, LEED AP BD+C<br></span></b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Project Engineer<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Energy Solutions Group<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>E M C Engineers, Inc.<br>Eaton’s Electrical Services & Systems <br>143 Union Blvd, Suite 350<br>Lakewood, CO 80228<br>tel: +1 303 328-3419<br>mobile: +1 303 668-2511<br>fax: +1 303 974-1239<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="mailto:MatthewRLarson@Eaton.com">MatthewRLarson@Eaton.com</a> <br><a href="http://www.eaton.com/energysolutions">www.eaton.com/energysolutions</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><img alt=image001 border=0 height=101 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image003.jpg@01CC3D52.CE17CA60" width=198></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kyle Fridgen<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 08, 2011 9:32 AM<br><b>To:</b> jtorres-coto@mbo1.com; 'Rob Hudson'<br><b>Cc:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] SPAM-MED: LEED NC: Existing or New Building<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The CaGBC allows using a pro-rated point scale based on the relative floor areas of new and existing. Not sure if this is the same for USGBC.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Kyle<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jorge Torres-Coto<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 08, 2011 11:00 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Rob Hudson'<br><b>Cc:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] SPAM-MED: LEED NC: Existing or New Building<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>You use the existing building criteria for % and points in LEED if your existing portion is greater than half of the whole project sq.ft. (existing + addition). <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>Jorge E. Torres Coto </span><span style='font-size:1.0pt;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:black;layout-grid-mode:line'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'><img border=0 height=39 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image004.jpg@01CC3D52.CE17CA60" width=39><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>4830 Viewridge Ave.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-MX style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>San Diego, CA 92123<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-MX style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>p 858.751.0933<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-MX style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>f 858.751.0937<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>c 858.688.6088<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:navy'><img border=0 height=159 id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image005.gif@01CC3D52.CE17CA60" width=181></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div align=center class=MsoNormal style='text-align:center'><hr align=center size=2 width="100%"></div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Rob Hudson [mailto:rdh4176@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 08, 2011 7:52 AM<br><b>To:</b> jtorres-coto@mbo1.com<br><b>Cc:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: SPAM-MED: [Bldg-sim] LEED NC: Existing or New Building</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Yes, I agree that i should use the existing envelope for the existing conditions of the existing building and the ASHRAE Min for the new building. But it comes down to whether EA Credit 1 follows the new building % or the existing building %. it is a 2 point difference that could effect strategies for saving energy later in the design.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Rob<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Jorge Torres-Coto <<a href="mailto:jtorres-coto@mbo1.com">jtorres-coto@mbo1.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>The baselines for the existing portion are what is there now.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>The baselines for the new portion (addition) are ASHRAE definitions.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>This should help considerably in your overall energy efficiency gains.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>It all comes down to % new vs. % existing, on how much you can gain.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>Jorge E. Torres Coto </span><span style='font-size:1.0pt;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:black;layout-grid-mode:line'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'><img border=0 height=39 id="_x0000_i1028" src="cid:image004.jpg@01CC3D52.CE17CA60" width=39></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>4830 Viewridge Ave.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES-MX style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>San Diego, CA 92123</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES-MX style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>p <a href="tel:858.751.0933" target="_blank">858.751.0933</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=ES-MX style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>f <a href="tel:858.751.0937" target="_blank">858.751.0937</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>c <a href="tel:858.688.6088" target="_blank">858.688.6088</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:navy'><img border=0 height=159 id="_x0000_i1029" src="cid:image005.gif@01CC3D52.CE17CA60" width=181></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div align=center class=MsoNormal style='text-align:center'><hr align=center size=2 width="100%"></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rob Hudson<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 08, 2011 7:32 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> SPAM-MED: [Bldg-sim] LEED NC: Existing or New Building</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I have a unique situation where the architect is taking an existing building and majorly renovating it (definition of major per LEED is HVAC, envelope and interior spaces) and then building an addition which is roughly the same size of the existing building, give or take a 1000 sqft.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Has anyone run into this before or have any insight that might help me explain which avenue to take to my boss? I am currently thinking new building, but if it was existing then that helps me even more.<br clear=all><span style='color:#888888'><br>-- <br>Rob Hudson</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><br>-- <br>Rob Hudson<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></DIV></BODY></HTML>