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<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="es-mx"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">I do not personally</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="es-mx"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New"> have</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="es-mx"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">any of these,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="es-mx"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New"> but I think</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="es-mx"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">they</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="es-mx"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New"> may have the information you may need.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="es-mx"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">They also offer data online if you do not want to buy the book, they have a free trial period.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="es-mx"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="es-mx"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"></SPAN><A NAME=""><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">Jorge E. Torres Coto </FONT></SPAN></A></P>
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<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">San Diego, CA 92123</FONT></SPAN></P>
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<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="es-mx"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">-----Original Message-----<BR>
From: bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [<A HREF="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</A>] On Behalf Of Eurek, John S NWO<BR>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 8:59 AM<BR>
To: bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<BR>
Subject: [Bldg-sim] O&M costs (UNCLASSIFIED)</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="es-mx"></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="es-mx"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">Classification: UNCLASSIFIED</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="es-mx"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">Caveats: NONE</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="es-mx"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">I was asked to complete a life cycle cost analysis comparing a boiler/chiller</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="es-mx"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">system vs a geothermal system with a water to water heat pump. I have all</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="es-mx"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">the factors I need except the illusive O&M costs. (I have fuel cost,</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="es-mx"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">installation cost, equipment cost....)</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="es-mx"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">What I have done at this point is to contact the company which will actually</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="es-mx"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">be doing the O&M. (I went straight to the horse's mouth) but the campus only</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="es-mx"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">has 1 building with a geo-thermal system and it is only 1 year old. I think</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="es-mx"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">if I can get a ratio comparing the O&M costs of a boiler/chiller vs</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="es-mx"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">geothermal, I'd be done. </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="es-mx"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">Something as simple as "A geothermal system on average costs x% less in O&M</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="es-mx"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">costs compared to a boiler/chiller system...." and somebody to site as to the</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="es-mx"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">value of 'x'.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="es-mx"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">John Eurek PE, LEED AP</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="es-mx"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">Classification: UNCLASSIFIED</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P DIR=LTR><SPAN LANG="es-mx"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">Caveats: NONE</FONT></SPAN></P>
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