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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Claire,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I had an interesting conversation with an IES rep about automated ASHRAE 90.1 Appendix G baseline models. He talked about the software developer thinking that they were 90% done about two years ago, it was much more challenging than they thought it would be, but it’s ready now. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Then I asked about the aspect that seems hardest to automate to me and his answer became let me get back to you. It is not their fault. ASHRAE 90.1 Appendix G was never written to be automated the way that UK standards were, it is a moving target because of addenda, adopting authorities change things (LEED DES), and it is open to interpretations. If you are making your business decisions based upon the Appendix G automation features, I suggest you look at the specific aspects that they can automate vs. what you need the most help with. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>A true craftsperson never blames the tools and good management equips their staff well.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Good luck,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#5F574F'>Paul Riemer, PE, LEED AP</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#5F574F'>Associate / Mechanical</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#5F574F'>Direct: 612-465-7696</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#5F574F'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#C4262E'>DUNHAM</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#5F574F'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Martin Roy ing. LEED AP<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 16, 2011 9:29 AM<br><b>To:</b> Chris Yates<br><b>Cc:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] EQUEST or IES for ASHRAE 90.1 modelling??<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>We use Equest, free, and title 24(based on ASHRAE 90.1) reference case is possible.<br>Engine is DOE2.2 and you can modify .bld<br><br>Martin <br><br>At 04:47 16/05/2011, Chris Yates wrote:<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Claire,<br>I believe that you have to use ApHVAC for A90.1 modelling in IES. Some people find this quite challenging.<br>Chris<br><br>On 16/05/2011 09:42, Claire Das Bhaumik wrote: <br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><pre>Which software package would you recommend for ASHRAE 90.1<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>modelling? <o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>At the moment I'm thinking:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>- IES: more user<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>friendly and likely to be quicker especially<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>with complex geometries, but expensive (we already use IES but would<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>have to pay for the ASHRAE 90.1 navigator and related modules and<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>training, support)<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>- EQUEST - less<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>automated and less suited to complex geometries<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>but cheaper and maybe designed more for ASHRAE modelling, less support<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>(but maybe more support from other users as software is widely used),<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>based on 'British' units (we are in UK so this means we generally have<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>to convert units)<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>- Tas - slow and<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>clunky but gets there in the end, bit of a<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>non-runner in the long term for ASHRAE as you have to build all the<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>buildings manually, unless they actually release the long-promised<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>ASHRAE plug in<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Dr Claire Das Bhaumik<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Senior Environmental Modeller<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>HOARE LEA<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Virtual Engineering<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Glen House, 200-208 Tottenham Court Road, London W1T 7PL<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Tel: +44 (0)20 7890 2500<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>DDI: +44 (0)20 7079 9646<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Visit Hoare Lea's website<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.hoarelea.com">www.hoarelea.com</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.hoarelea.com/"><</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://www.hoarelea.com/">http://www.hoarelea.com/</a><a href="http://www.hoarelea.com/"><o:p></o:p></a></pre><pre><span class=MsoHyperlink><a href="http://www.hoarelea.com/">></a></span> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Association for Consultancy and Engineering (ACE) - Engineering<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Excellence 2010 award winner<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>This email (and any attachment) is intended only for the attention of<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>the addressee. 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