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<b>Envoyé :</b> 12 mai 2011 16:46<br>
<b>À :</b> Genest, Frederic; Omar Delgado; bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Objet :</b> RE: [Bldg-sim] Energy Model Cost<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Genest,
Frederic<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 12, 2011 3:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Omar Delgado; bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] Energy Model Cost<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Omar,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
agree with this assessment. I usually consider up to two weeks of work for a
skilled modeler to complete the simulation and documentation, assuming all the
relevant information is readily available, and that you won’t have to
correct/update the model as the project goes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Though
it depends more on the project complexity, re: envelope and HVAC systems, and
less on project size. A cubic building with 20 times the same HVAC system
is simpler to model than a multi-wing building with variable fenestration ratios
and 20 different HVAC systems.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=FR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>De :</span></b><span
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Ndiaye [mailto:Demba.Ndiaye@setty.com] <br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> 12 mai 2011 16:28<br>
<b>À :</b> Omar Delgado; bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] Energy Model Cost<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Omar,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>I would expect, for a
building this size, approximately 40 hours (multiply by your hourly rate). The
40 hours include EAp2/EAc1 LEED documentation, and any review you may have to
respond to later.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Now, given that you
have never done a LEED model, it will take you more time, possibly up to 40
more hours.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>_______________<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Demba NDIAYE<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Omar
Delgado<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 12, 2011 7:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] Energy Model Cost<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Greetings everyone,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I have a question regarding the cost of an
energy model for a LEED project. Every energy model I've done so far has been
for <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>existing buildings, mainly for optimization
purposes. However, I received an RFP to model a five-story, 41,500 sq. ft.
building<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>that's currently on the design phase and is
pursuing the LEED-NC Silver certification. I really have no idea what would be
a fair <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>price for this model since I'm going to
have to use Appendix G (ASHRAE 90.1) to evaluate the difference between the
base <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>and proposed buildings. I don't know how
much extra effort this will take. I know the procedure, just haven't done it
before.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Can you shed any light on this issue?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Thanks in advance!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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