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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Milda,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Just as you can use a hammer to both drive nails and extract
them, all building energy simulation software is simply a tool that can be used
for very different means. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If you wish to use such software to aid in design/selection of
HVAC equipment, then fundamentally you are arriving at design capacities by calculating
design heating/cooling loads. These use design heating/cooling weather
conditions which are fundamentally different from the hourly averaged (over
decades) conditions in a TMY weather file.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If you wish to use such software to evaluate system behavior
over time, that’s a very different endgame. A system that is 100% properly sized
for capacity at design conditions can easily have “unmet hours” as a result of
something beyond capacity. Many factors independent of capacity come into play
for hourly simulations including system setback/warmup functions, economizer operation,
load schedules of all sorts, part-load performance curves and sensor/thermostat
settings. These all can determine whether a zone’s conditions are met or not
for the hour, in spite of whether a system is properly sized for design
conditions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Some software is specific to load calculations and assisting in
HVAC sizing. Some software is specifically targeted at energy modeling to simulate
system behavior over time. Some software is intended/appropriate for both functions,
to varying degrees. It’s up to the end-user to define what she/he is trying to
accomplish, and what tool of choice is best for the job at hand.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>~Nick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>PS: It appears you may have missed my response following Varun’s
specific to 90.1 and “safety factors” last week – I’ve attached just in case
;).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Stylus BT","sans-serif";
color:#2D4D5E'>NICK CATON, E.I.T.</span></b><b><span style='font-family:"Stylus BT","sans-serif";
color:#2D4D5E'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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color:#2D4D5E'>fax 913 345.0617<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a href="www.smithboucher.com"
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Chuck Khuen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 05, 2011 2:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> varun kulkarni; milda margarin<br>
<b>Cc:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] ASHRAE 90.1 Appendix G3.1.2.2<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>If
there someone can define/agree upon a solution to the ‘different weather data
used for design and simulation’ problem, we are happy to help. We have
the detailed historical data from which we can calculate the design to numbers
and we have both raw observations and localized current conditions/forecasts
plus an engine to post process this on the fly and deliver it specific to a
site. We are happy to work with anyone who wants to tackle this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>_____________________<br>
Chuck Khuen<br>
Principal<br>
Weather Analytics Inc.<br>
www.weatheranalytics.com<br>
781-856-5383<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <a
href="mailto:seldomvarun@gmail.com" title="seldomvarun@gmail.com">varun
kulkarni</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Sent:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>
Tuesday, April 05, 2011 2:42 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>To:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <a
href="mailto:empire999@hotmail.com" title="empire999@hotmail.com">milda
margarin</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Cc:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> <a
href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org"
title="bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Subject:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> Re:
[Bldg-sim] ASHRAE 90.1 Appendix G3.1.2.2<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Milda,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>If
you did notice, HAP uses two different weather files. one for design and other
for simulation. And if you dig into it you'll find out that they both are
different. The simulation weather is the real time (actual) temperature and other
data recorded at the airports for an extended period, which cannot be
overridden, while design weather data is based on extreme or peak weather as
defined by ASHRAE which you can change in the program.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><br>
Now if you are looking at LEED unmet load hours they may not be necessarily due
to air sytem size, but may also be due to your plant insufficient capacity.
Download HAP e help 014 from here :<a
href="http://www.commercial.carrier.com/commercial/hvac/general/0,,CLI1_DIV12_ETI3906_MID1738,00.html">http://www.commercial.carrier.com/commercial/hvac/general/0,,CLI1_DIV12_ETI3906_MID1738,00.html</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>In
here you will find a pdf saying understanding the LEED unmet load hours in HAP.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Simulation
results is just for us to know how the building would run in real time when
sized on the design results. In simulation , HAP takes credit of internal heat
gains, which reduces your heating load, which is OK in real time. While in
design , internal heat gain is ignored in heating load calcualtions. This is
just one of the difference in simulation and design in HAP.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>I hope this helps Milda.<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>On
Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 12:01 PM, milda margarin <<a
href="mailto:empire999@hotmail.com">empire999@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>hi
Varun <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>thanks
for your reply! I have another question though based on your statement that the
system should be based on the 'design results'; I thought the whole point of
using simulations is to predict the peak capacity required and then base your
design on this? (possibly by applying safety factors according to real life
experience).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>And
how can you have unmet loads when you design based on the peak load? In that
case the 'peak load' is not the maximum load?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Further
comments anybody?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>best
regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Milda<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>From:
<a href="mailto:seldomvarun@gmail.com" target="_blank">seldomvarun@gmail.com</a><br>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 07:51:29 -0400<br>
Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] ASHRAE 90.1 Appendix G3.1.2.2<br>
To: <a href="mailto:empire999@hotmail.com" target="_blank">empire999@hotmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Milda,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I
think if you are performorming energy simulations for the baseline, it doesnt
matter what is this 25% and 15% upsizing is used for, as it used only as much
capacity it needs. And your system size should be based on the design results
and not simulation results (that also proposed model).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>But
nevertheless I always interpret this as you said in your first point, to cover
uncertainity in building simulation. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>I
also think it helps baseline to reduce its unmet load hours.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>I hope this helps.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>On
Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 3:27 AM, milda margarin <<a
href="mailto:empire999@hotmail.com" target="_blank">empire999@hotmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#2A2A2A'>hi
, I already submitted this question but there were no responses so I'd like to
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<p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:12.75pt'><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:#2A2A2A'>could somebody share some insight to the ASHRAE 90.1 Appendix
G3.1.2.2 point regarding heating and cooling equipment sizing based on building
energy simulations. It is stated that the equipment should be oversized by a
factor of 1.25 for heating and 1.15 for cooling. Are these "safety
factors" based on the uncertainty associated with building energy
simulations or a requirement that makes sure that the system can respond
quickly enough during startup? Why are there different factors applied for heating
and cooling?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#2A2A2A'>thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#2A2A2A'>Milda<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'>Varun Kulkarni , M.S. , EIT<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'>RMF Engineering<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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