We have a mix of Townhouses that could be 2 or 3 floors, Apartments that are 2 units per floor and 2 or 3 floors.  Nothing is higher than 3 floors.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Jorge Torres-Coto <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jtorres-coto@mbo1.com">jtorres-coto@mbo1.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">From your description, I am wondering if
you have vertical units or horizontal.  If you have vertical units you probably
should be looking at the LEED for Homes mid-rise document in lieu of the standard
LEED for Homes.</span></font></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">It is completely different approach than a
single family low rise detached home approach.  It is basically an energy model
with ASHRAE 90.1 (not even 90.2) approach, Appendix G and all the bells and
whistles.</span></font></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy">Jorge E. Torres Coto  </span></font><font size="1" color="black"><span style="font-size:1.0pt;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;background:black;layout-grid-mode:line"> </span></font><font size="2" color="navy"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy"><img border="0" width="39" height="39" src="cid:image002.jpg@01CBEEAF.B5DABD50"></span></font></p>


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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">
<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Rob Hudson<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, March 30, 2011
6:55 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Karen Walkerman<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bldg-sim] LEED for
Homes</span></font></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Honestly, because i was told to.  There is a LEED person on board
that said this is the correct avenue to go.  </span></font></p>

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software packages are different then what i am currently using, but this is
more for design purposes rather than for LEED submittal.  that being said
i still want to compare our design to the "expected" values of the
LEED for homes requirements.</span></font></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Karen Walkerman <<a href="mailto:kwalkerman@gmail.com" target="_blank">kwalkerman@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></font></p>


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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I haven't done a LEED for Homes project in a little while, but when I
did, modeling needed to be done using software approved by HERS (Home Energy
Rating System).  There are a few software packages available.  In
general, they are pretty simple, and difficult to get unless you are a HERS
rater.  For LEED for Homes, LEED kind of tacked onto the HERS program for
the energy portion.  Is there a reason you're using LEED for Homes instead
of LEED for Neighborhood Development or LEED
 NC?</span></font></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Rob Hudson <<a href="mailto:rdh4176@gmail.com" target="_blank">rdh4176@gmail.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">So, even though i have no central AC unit, and that i have a chiller
that serves several apt units, i still use this SEER of 13 or 14?  Or do i
assume that because the units are getting chilled water/hot water from a
"campus loop" that the efficiencies for both the baseline and the
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Jorge Torres-Coto <<a href="mailto:jtorres-coto@mbo1.com" target="_blank">jtorres-coto@mbo1.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">The minimums for SEER are on the tables from LEED for Homes 
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[mailto:<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>]
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Rob Hudson<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, March 29, 2011
11:16 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [Bldg-sim] LEED for Homes</span></font></p>

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for LEED for Homes before?  I am trying to understand what the
requirements are for the baseline HVAC system so that our design is sure to be
better than the baseline (I understand that the "Rater" will be
performing the final energy analysis at a later date).</span></font></p>

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 There will be a total of 64 apartment units between several different
buildings, and each unit has valance with 2 central plants feeding all the
equipment.  </span></font></p>

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