<head><style>body{font-family: Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:9pt;background-color: #ffffff;color: black;}</style></head><body id="compText"><blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 0px; border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 255);">So does that mean that a building that uses lots of energy to house computers or equipment that needs cooling but DOES NOT have any real occupants (other than those who may go there on occasion to check on the equipment, say less than once a day) can still go for LEED certification?<br><br>What energy load then would be used for the LEED energy model since none of the energy load is for occupant comfort? Lighting only?<br><br>Thanks,<br>Debra Lombard, LEED AP, EMIT, EIT<br><br>-----Original Message-----
<br>From: Marcus Sheffer <sheffer@energyopportunities.com>
<br>Sent: Mar 28, 2011 3:09 PM
<br>To: Dru.Crawley@bentley.com
<br>Cc: bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org
<br>Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] LEED 2.2 for manufacturing facility
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Hey Dru,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Yep my language was not precise enough. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: green;">Marcus Sheffer</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: green;">Energy Opportunities, Inc/a 7group Company</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">1200 E Camping Area Road, Wellsville, PA 17365</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">717-292-2636, </span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><a href="mailto:sheffer@sevengroup.com"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">sheffer@sevengroup.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.sevengroup.com">www.sevengroup.com</a></span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">
Dru.Crawley@bentley.com [mailto:Dru.Crawley@bentley.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 28, 2011 2:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Marcus Sheffer<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Bldg-sim] LEED 2.2 for manufacturing facility<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Actually it does apply to all
buildings (except low-rise residential) – the scope only excludes: </span><span style="font-size: 10pt;">equipment and portions of building systems that use<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;">energy
primarily to provide for industrial, manufacturing, or commercial processes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Not the buildings
themselves. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Marcus
Sheffer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 28, 2011 2:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] LEED 2.2 for manufacturing facility<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">LEED’s use of 90.1 is as an adaptation. 90.1 as a code
does not apply to manufacturing facilities, but LEED adapts 90.1 to apply to
all inhabited commercial buildings and residential 4 stories and higher
buildings.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Your first statement as it relates to LEED is correct.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: green;">Marcus Sheffer</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: green;">Energy Opportunities, Inc/a 7group Company</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">1200 E Camping Area Road, Wellsville, PA 17365</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">717-292-2636, </span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><a href="mailto:sheffer@sevengroup.com"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">sheffer@sevengroup.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.sevengroup.com">www.sevengroup.com</a></span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">
bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>R B<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 28, 2011 2:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] LEED 2.2 for manufacturing facility<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It is my understanding that we use App G for LEED energy
credit analysis of manufacturing facility (which has some offices etc.) and all
the manufacturing load counted as process load. Is this correct? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This is based on the LEED 2.2 narative in the energy credit
section (Standard 90.1 establishes minimum requirements for the
energy-efficient design of buildings, except low-rise residential buildings.
The provisions of this standard do not apply to single-family houses,
multi-family structures of three stories or fewer above grade, manufactured
houses (mobile homes) and manufactured houses (modular), or buildings that
do not use either electricity or fossil fuel).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The following bullet number 3 in the ashrae standard has me
confused, but it is not included in the LEED 2.2 narative. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "TT118Co00","serif";">2.3 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">The provisions of this
standard do not apply to: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt;">(a) single-family houses, multi-family
structures of three stories or fewer above grade, manufactured houses (mobile
homes) and manufactured houses (modular),<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt;">(b) buildings that do not use either
electricity or fossil fuel, or<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt;">(c) equipment and portions of building
systems that use energy primarily to provide for industrial, manufacturing, or
commercial processes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt;">-Rohini<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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