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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Ditto, for what it’s
worth!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I had a project with a 2-story entry/atrium
space with a glass exterior in a very cold climate… actual design used a
heavy amount of baseboards along the perimeter in addition to FPVAV’s
with reheat.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The baseline system serving that
space was a fan-powered box (System 6) that had to autosize pretty big to keep
up with the heating loads.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>~Nick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;color:#CC9900'>PROJECT ENGINEER<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>James V
Dirkes II, PE<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 28, 2011 3:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Will Mak'; bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] modeling baseboard in 90.1-2007<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>That is exactly my
understanding.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><b><span
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>The
Building Performance Team<br>
</span></b><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:#1F497D'>James V. Dirkes II, P.E., LEED AP<br>
</span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:#1F497D'>1631 Acacia Drive NW<br>
Grand Rapids, MI 49504<br>
616 450 8653<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Will Mak [mailto:wmak@epsteinglobal.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 28, 2011 4:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> James V Dirkes II, PE; bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Bldg-sim] modeling baseboard in 90.1-2007<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So the interpretation would be
that we must model the baseboard system with whatever HVAC system is associated
with the design while the baseline model only has to include the system type
spelled out in the guidelines?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#C75B12'>William Mak, LEED Green Associate</span></b><span
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> James V Dirkes II, PE
[mailto:jvd2pe@tds.net] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 28, 2011 3:14 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Will Mak; bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Bldg-sim] modeling baseboard in 90.1-2007<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Dear
Will,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#1F497D'>All
baseline systems have some sort of (non-baseboard) heating as part of the
system. Baseboard would only be used for a Proposed system.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal align=center style='margin-left:.5in;text-align:center'><b><span
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'>The
Building Performance Team<br>
</span></b><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:#1F497D'>James V. Dirkes II, P.E., LEED AP<br>
</span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:#1F497D'>1631 Acacia Drive NW<br>
Grand Rapids, MI 49504<br>
616 450 8653<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Will Mak<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 28, 2011 3:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] modeling baseboard in 90.1-2007<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hello all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I was trying to find some guidance on how we
are suppose to model baseboard systems on the baseline model for LEED
submission. Are they treated like preheat systems where we must simulate them
to be the same on both the proposed and baseline or is there some rule
I’m not seeing in ASHRAE 90.1-2007?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#C75B12'>William Mak, LEED Green Associate</span></b><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Mechanical Design Engineer</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
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color:#1F497D'><br>
</span><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#C75B12'>EPSTEIN</span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><br>
</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Architecture<br>
Interiors<br>
Engineering<br>
Construction<br>
<br>
600 West Fulton Street<br>
Chicago, Illinois 60661-1259<br>
<br>
D: (312) 429-8116<br>
F: (312) 559-1217<br>
E:</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#0070C0'> <a href="mailto:wmak@epsteinglobal.com">wmak@epsteinglobal.com</a></span><span
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