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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The topic is kind of broad but I’ll take a swing:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The ideal “100% occupied” figures and scheduling to
use are those describing actual occupancy in an existing/future building. In
the real world, energy modelers generally can’t get ahold of this
information for new construction. Real-world scheduling may be readily available
for schools and the like, however.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The best “100% occupied” occupancy numbers in lieu
of “real world” would be those already used to develop the HVAC
design loads – at the minimum you know the modeled equipment capacities/airflows
will be sufficient for the resultant interior/ventilation loads. Your
architect may or may not be the person to talk to to get this information.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>When the mechanical designer’s ventilation/occupancy figures
aren’t handy either… a fire plan’s space/exit capacity
figures, while inflated to a worst case for life safety purposes, might be okay
in a pinch if you don’t have time to develop your own figures, but given
time…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>…I would sooner develop my own numbers (play the part of
the missing ME) using the furniture plans and occupancy density figures (P/1000SF)
per ASHRAE Std 62/62.1. Such figures are often built into load calc and
energy modeling programs for the user’s convenience, and those are a good
starting point to refine/round using other resources at hand.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>90.1 Appendix G is (thankfully) fairly simple and “hands-off”
when it comes to how occupancy/scheduling should be handled. As long as
everything is identical between baseline and proposed, everyone on the reviewer
side should be happy, so the means by which we approximate maximum occupancies
and hourly fractional scheduling is pretty much up to the modelers. This
is one of those “self-policing” approaches within 90.1: Skewing
the occupancy/scheduling too far in either direction is not in the best
interest for a LEED model, as you will either (A) have an overly-vacant
building with fewer loads for your more-efficient systems to handle, decreasing
the building performance %, or (B) have an over-occupied building resulting in loads
that cause unmet hours the proposed equipment capacities can’t handle.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>~Nick<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Peter
Simmonds<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 08, 2010 3:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Brian Tysoe; bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] Occupancy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>This is a very important point that is often forgotten in
simulation modeling. The computer is a strange object and if you tell the
computer to put one occupant for every 100ft2, then is does just that and the
related ventilation air and cooling (or heating).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I usually request the architect provide me with the occupation
calculations for the elevators and cafeteria and also the Fire Marshall rating
for building occupancy. These numbers are typically around 70% of the
simulation program occupants. The occupancy density in the program and
therefore be adjusted to match this.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>How this could be interpreted in 90.1 I will leave up to any
following discussions?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Brian Tysoe
[mailto:BTysoe@mcw.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 08, 2010 6:50 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] Occupancy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hello
all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
have a question about occupancy schedules for energy models.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Generally
the owner will provide peak occupancy numbers on a room-by-room basis; and a
peak overall occupancy number for the entire building. Inevitably the
room-by-room numbers will add up to significantly more than the overall
building number.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Which
numbers should be used for the energy model? Would you use the room-by-room
number and scale them down with the occupancy schedule based on the overall
occupancy?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Obviously,
this has a significant impact on the results.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#4D4D4D'>Brian Tysoe </span></strong><span style='font-size:8.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#4D4D4D'>M.A.Sc., P.Eng., LEED AP </span><span
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