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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dear Neeraj,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Building/solar orientation is a key factor.
What was generally accepted to be a relatively still air space was not. We have
performed experiment twice but a third time is needed to weed out some
questions. I need to do some more work in this area & publish our findings.
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Mark Dewsbury<br>
<br>
Centre for Sustainable Architecture with Wood<br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType w:st="on"><u1:place u2:st="on"><u1:PlaceType u2:st="on">School</st1:PlaceType></u1:PlaceType>
of <u1:PlaceName u2:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Architecture</st1:PlaceName></st1:place><br>
</u1:PlaceName><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType w:st="on"></u1:place><u1:place u2:st="on"><u1:PlaceType u2:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType></u1:PlaceType>
of <u1:PlaceName u2:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Tasmania</st1:PlaceName></st1:place><br>
</u1:PlaceName></u1:place>Locked Bag 1324<br>
Launceston 7250<br>
ph: 03 6324 4089<br>
mob: 0417 290 807<br>
fax: 03 6324 4088<br>
</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'>e: <a
href="mailto:mark.dewsbury@utas.edu.au"
title="blocked::mailto:mark.dewsbury@utas.edu.au">mark.dewsbury@utas.edu.au</a></span><o:p></o:p></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext'> Nearedge [mailto:near_ej@yahoo.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, 18 September 2010
10:49 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bldg-sim] effective
R-value cavity insulation</span></font><font color=black><span lang=EN-US
style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The phrase "</span></font><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>air currents in cavity spaces dependent on wall orientation"</span></font><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> suggests
higher conductivity!<br>
Though it'll be interesting to know more, perhaps changing solar radiation on
the facade with respect to time ?! . . . <br>
~Neeraj<br>
<br>
Neeraj Kapoor<br>
t: +91.99581.70018<br>
e: neeraj[at]kalpakrit[dot]com<br>
Kalpakrit Sustainable Environments Pvt. Ltd.<br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">New Delhi</st1:City>, <st1:country-region
w:st="on">India</st1:country-region></st1:place><br>
</span></font><br>
On 9/17/2010 10:49 AM, Carol Gardner wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Dramatically higher or
lower?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 9:35 PM, mark dewsbury <<a
href="mailto:Mark.Dewsbury@utas.edu.au" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send=true>Mark.Dewsbury@utas.edu.au</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Dear Kevin,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>I am sure this is going to be a hot topic very soon. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>In <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Australia</st1:place></st1:country-region>,
the ASHRAE & other values have been used for some years with regard to
cavity insulation values. This includes subfloors, walls, roof spaces and
spaces between roofing and sarking. We have conducted a few preliminary studies
with Engineering honours and Architecture PhD students on actual buildings.
They have all shown dramatically different results to what was previously
accepted. In the case of walls this has a dramatic affect on the current
practice of placing the insulation on the outside of the cavity. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>In terms of the roof model we have documented variations up to 20
deg C between DSP and observed results. Subfloors having variations but to a
lessor magnitude. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>We are hoping for some future moneys to go back to the fundamentals
of the physics models and modify them to relate to what is really occurring in
buildings. We have measured amazing horizontal and vertical air currents in
cavity spaces dependent on wall orientation. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Mark Dewsbury<br>
<br>
Centre for Sustainable Architecture with Wood<br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType w:st="on">School</st1:PlaceType> of <st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Architecture</st1:PlaceName></st1:place><br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType>
of <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Tasmania</st1:PlaceName></st1:place><br>
Locked Bag 1324<br>
Launceston 7250<br>
ph: 03 6324 4089<br>
mob: 0417 290 807<br>
fax: 03 6324 4088<br>
</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'>e: <a
href="mailto:mark.dewsbury@utas.edu.au" target="_blank"
title="blocked::mailto:mark.dewsbury@utas.edu.au" moz-do-not-send=true>mark.dewsbury@utas.edu.au</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Kevin
Kyte [mailto:<a href="mailto:KKyte@watts-ae.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send=true>KKyte@watts-ae.com</a>] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, 10 September 2010
1:47 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> mark dewsbury<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Bldg-sim] effective
R-value cavity insulation</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>This is what I received.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0mm 0mm 0mm;
border-color:rgb(181,
196, 223)'>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> mark
dewsbury [mailto:<a href="mailto:Mark.Dewsbury@utas.edu.au" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send=true>Mark.Dewsbury@utas.edu.au</a>] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, September 05, 2010
9:36 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Kevin Kyte<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> FW: [Bldg-sim] effective
R-value cavity insulation</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
12.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Dear Kevin,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Was there any feedback or comment from your question? </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>I have done some preliminary studies with engineering honours
students and found dramatically different results to the theories. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Mark Dewsbury<br>
<br>
Centre for Sustainable Architecture with Wood<br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType w:st="on">School</st1:PlaceType> of <st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Architecture</st1:PlaceName></st1:place><br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType>
of <st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Tasmania</st1:PlaceName></st1:place><br>
Locked Bag 1324<br>
Launceston 7250<br>
ph: 03 6324 4089<br>
mob: 0417 290 807<br>
fax: 03 6324 4088<br>
</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'>e: <a
href="mailto:mark.dewsbury@utas.edu.au" target="_blank"
title="blocked::mailto:mark.dewsbury@utas.edu.au" moz-do-not-send=true>mark.dewsbury@utas.edu.au</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Kevin
Kyte [mailto:<a href="mailto:KKyte@watts-ae.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send=true>KKyte@watts-ae.com</a>] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, 6 June 2010 2:13 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send=true>bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Bldg-sim] effective R-value
cavity insulation</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I am curious what the relationship is between cavity depth,
rated insulation, and effective insulation in framed walls. I am
referencing the ASHRAE 90.1 doc because it is really the only one I have on
this subject. I have charted Table A9.2B and a logarithmic trendline
appears to be a good fit for extrapolating. If anyone in academia,
industry, or the societies has more information on this subject I would
certainly be grateful to receive a good lead. Thank you.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Kevin Kyte, </span></font><font size=2><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'>LEED</span></font><sup><font size=2
face=Arial><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font></sup><sup><font
size=2><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'>®</span></font></sup><font
size=2><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'> AP</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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w:st="on"><b><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold'>Watts</span></font></b></st1:place><b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-weight:bold'> Architecture & Engineering, P.C.</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><st1:Street
w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on"><font size=2 color=black face=Shruti><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Shruti'>95 Perry Street, Suite
300</span></font></st1:address></st1:Street><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><font size=2 color=black face=Shruti><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Shruti'>Buffalo</span></font></st1:City><font
size=2 face=Shruti><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Shruti'>,
<st1:State w:st="on">NY</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">14203</st1:PostalCode></span></font></st1:place><o:p></o:p></p>
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