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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hi Mark,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>“How does one model
process loads…?”: Generally - equally in the baseline and
proposed models, unless you are providing documentation to demonstrate more
efficient process equipment loads/scheduling than a baseline (which you should
also define/document). I’ve copied a previous query below yours
which should help – there’s more discussion in the archives if you’d
like to pursue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>If you mean “how” as
in “how using eQuest,” then you’ll need to give us more info
regarding which program you’re using and what loads you’re trying
to model. On a related note, I’d advise avoiding posting the same
question to multiple listservs as not all respondents will keep abreast of the
current discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>“…is it not required?”:
This is an interesting question… & one I don’t have an
immediate answer to. If the issue is that you cannot document the process
loads for lack of information, that’s why the 25% minimum figure exists,
but that doesn’t sound like your current situation. I think it’s
implicit that you should be modeling all energy consuming process loads, and
documenting any efficiencies against industry standards per the above/below,
but to outright exclude a manufacturing process might require leaning on an
existing CIR… you may get others to chime in with their experiences if
you can describe the nature of the loads/building more specifically (auto
factory machinery? Lab equipment? Airport conveyor systems?).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Best of luck!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 17, 2010 11:35 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] LEED 3.0 question<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>The question has come up, when pursuing Leed 3.0, how does
one model process loads (Manufacturing not Plug), or is it not required to be
part of the model<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Mark Yerkes<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>President<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>T.J. Harris Inc.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeremy
Poling<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 05, 2010 4:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Seth P. Spangler; bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] LEED Process Energy Reduction<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>We
have documented this on two projects – in both cases we had to document
what the industry standard for the process would be and then how ours was more
efficient. One was related to conveyor energy usage and the process
integrator documented the expected savings based on numerous other
installations they had done over the past few years. The second one was
the process energy associated with refrigeration – through team member
networking we surveyed approximately 200 owners of buildings of a similar scope
and use to document the baseline refrigeration system that a building of that
type would use. Then we documented how our system was different and more
efficient.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>In
both cases this was approached with the alternative calculation methodology of ASHRAE
90.1 and that section of the LEED template. Hope that helps!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#C75B12'>JEREMY R. POLING, PE, LEED AP</span></b><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Seth P.
Spangler<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 05, 2010 4:04 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] LEED Process Energy Reduction<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hello
All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
am currently working on several process intensive buildings. The mechanical
systems and corresponding control strategies that are being designed are ideal
for achieving 30%-40% savings in a standard office building but I’m
afraid that the common denominator, the high process loads, will significantly
reduce my projects savings. Has anyone successfully submitted for a reduction in
process load. If so, what/how did you document the reduction?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Thanks
for your time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>Seth
Spangler, LEED® AP <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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