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Hi Joe (and Morgan!),<BR> <BR>I assume that the original prototypical models were developed for DOE-2.1e and not DOE-2.2, but please confirm. I would be interested in looking at these prototypes too if you are willing to share. <BR> <BR>Thanks,<BR>Hwakong<BR> <BR>> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:50:49 -0700<BR>> From: YJHuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com<BR>> To: morgan@ecotope.com<BR>> CC: bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<BR>> Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Prototype Commercial Building?<BR>> <BR>> Yes and no. My original prototypes were reviewed in a 18-month interlab <BR>> effort between LBNL (where I was at the time), PNNL, and NREL. A team of <BR>> three working under me updated the prototypes to ASHRAE 90.1-2003, as <BR>> well as incorporating comments, received mostly from PNNL and DOE. At <BR>> DOE's request, we also converted the building files from DOE-2 BDL to <BR>> EnergyPlus IDF, and delivered both sets to DOE, PNNL, and NREL. After my <BR>> departure from LBNL in June 2007, NREL continued working on the <BR>> EnergyPlus files, and released them in 2009. I have not looked at these, <BR>> but according to my LBNL colleague these are essentially the same <BR>> building models, although there have been some improvements to the <BR>> system inputs from what I had delivered.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Joe Huang<BR>> White Box Technologies, Inc.<BR>> 346 Rheem Blvd. Suite 108D<BR>> Moraga CA 94556<BR>> (o) +925 388 0265<BR>> (c) +510 928 2683<BR>> yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com<BR>> www.whiteboxtechnologies.com<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Morgan Heater wrote:<BR>> > Are your prototypes the ones that were converted into the energyplus files<BR>> > referenced here?<BR>> > <BR>> > http://www1.eere.energy.gov/buildings/commercial_initiative/reference_buil<BR>> > dings.html<BR>> > <BR>> > If you had a doe-2 version of the medium office prototype, that would be<BR>> > really helpful. <BR>> > <BR>> > Thanks!<BR>> > <BR>> > -----Original Message-----<BR>> > From: Joe Huang [mailto:YJHuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com] <BR>> > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 2:17 PM<BR>> > To: Morgan Heater<BR>> > Cc: bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<BR>> > Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Prototype Commercial Building?<BR>> > <BR>> > Are you referring to a prototypical commercial office building?<BR>> > While at LBNL, I developed a suite of 486 prototypical commercial <BR>> > buildings covering 16 building types of three vintages in 16 cities,<BR>> > that were later generalized to around 120 regional prototypes.<BR>> > <BR>> > These were originally developed in the early 1990's as DOE-2 files,<BR>> > but were converted to EnergyPlus in 2005-2007 and now exist as DOE's<BR>> > benchmark buildings available on the NREL web site. However, I did<BR>> > all the development work in DOE-2, and still have all these DOE-2<BR>> > files, with the intention of putting them on my Web site at some<BR>> > point.<BR>> > <BR>> > I can send you the medium office prototype if you're interested.<BR>> > A distinguishing feature of these prototypes is that the input files<BR>> > are highly modular and make extensive use of DOE-2 macros to set the<BR>> > key building parameters (size, number of floors, interior conditions, <BR>> > etc.). This makes the building models very flexible and extensible.<BR>> > After all, I've yet to meet a researcher who just wanted to have an<BR>> > input file and do a run without any modifications.<BR>> > <BR>> > Joe<BR>> > <BR>> > Joe Huang<BR>> > White Box Technologies, Inc.<BR>> > 346 Rheem Blvd. Suite 108D<BR>> > Moraga CA 94556<BR>> > (o) +925 388 0265<BR>> > (c) +510 928 2683<BR>> > yjhuang@whiteboxtechnologies.com<BR>> > www.whiteboxtechnologies.com<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Morgan Heater wrote:<BR>> >><BR>> >> Hi - I'm looking for either a doe2 model or a list of modeling <BR>> >> parameters for a prototype commercial building. Ideally, I'm looking <BR>> >> for a model that's for a typical commercial building around 40,000 <BR>> >> square feet that's been used/validated in other research projects.<BR>> >><BR>> >> <BR>> >><BR>> >> Anybody have any leads? 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