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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>On this same note, are there any worthwhile ID credits related
to energy or energy innovations? I’m sure I can look into it, but half
the time other ID credits see pretty far-fetched or too project-specific. I
heard mumblings a while back about pre-wiring/designing/stubbing or
space-allocation for future renewable energy (much like maximize open space –
although in this case reserving infrastructures and space for equipment, not
native plantings).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Much thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Matthew Higgins, ASHRAE-HBDP, LEED-AP<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Energy Engineer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#0F0F65'>Bridgers & Paxton Consulting Engineers, Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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color:#0F0F65'>4600-C Montgomery Blvd. NE<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Brooks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 09, 2010 9:15 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Robert Gengelbach; dlombard@earthlink.net;
bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] LEED-NC v2.2 innovation in design credit for
reduction in peak energy load<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Second on Robert's comment. That is not enough to get
an ID credit. <o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Robert Gengelbach
<rgengelbach@sustainablemech.com><br>
<b>To:</b> dlombard@earthlink.net; bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Fri, July 9, 2010 10:53:42 AM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] LEED-NC v2.2 innovation in design credit for
reduction in peak energy load<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Reduction in energy relates directly to EAc1 and can be
accounted for in that credit. No ID credit would be available for
reducing peak load.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#1F497D'>Robert Gengelbach, PE, LEED</span></b><span
style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D'>®</span><b><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:#1F497D'>AP</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:#1F497D'>Sustainable Mechanical Design
Associates, LLC</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>89 Monroe Center NW</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
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color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:rgengelbach@sustainablemech.com" target="_blank">rgengelbach@sustainablemech.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>dlombard@earthlink.net<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 09, 2010 10:47 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] LEED-NC v2.2 innovation in design credit for
reduction in peak energy load</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<h1><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>RE: innovation
in design credit for reduction in peak energy load</span><o:p></o:p></h1>
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<p><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Has
anyone applied for and/ or gotten an innovation in design credit for reduction
in peak energy load for any version of LEED? We're working on a project under
LEED NC v2.2 and have significant reduction in lighting load during peak hours
by using solatubes.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Please
provide any contact info and details if you can.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I
appreciate the assistance. It seems like the energy model can be manipulated to
show the project savings during peak times and that would be enough information
needed for a submittal to the GBCI.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>THANKS
for being LEEDers!!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Debra
Lombard</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>dlombard@earthlink.net</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-----Original Message----- <br>
From: Vinay Devanathan <br>
Sent: Jul 9, 2010 8:53 AM <br>
To: Demba Ndiaye <br>
Cc: "bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" <br>
Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Exhaust Fans in Baseline <br>
<br>
Demba and Vikram,<br>
<br>
Alright. Thanks for the clarification.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Vinay</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Demba Ndiaye <<a
href="mailto:Demba.Ndiaye@setty.com" target="_blank">Demba.Ndiaye@setty.com</a>>
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Exhaust fan
power is to be the same for both designs. You apportion the remaining baseline
fan power allowance between supply and return/relief.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>______________</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Demba NDIAYE</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> Vinay Devanathan [mailto:<a
href="mailto:vinay.devanathan@gmail.com" target="_blank">vinay.devanathan@gmail.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 08, 2010 5:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Sami, Vikram<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Demba Ndiaye; <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org"
target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] Exhaust Fans in Baseline</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:black'>Vikram,<br>
<br>
Thanks for your reply. <br>
<br>
So, does it mean I will have to model the exhaust fan in the baseline model but
in a fashion such that it consumes power proportionate to your proposed design
(supply, return and exhaust) but falls within the Allowable Fan System bhp
value of Appendix G. Am I right? <br>
<br>
Thank you.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Vinay</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Sami,
Vikram <<a href="mailto:Vikram.Sami@perkinswill.com" target="_blank">Vikram.Sami@perkinswill.com</a>>
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I'm pretty sure
that your fan power allowance in 90.1 is for all fan energy (including
exhaust). So for example if your baseline fan allowance is 20kW (hypothetical),
you will need to apportion that allowance between supply and exhaust similar to
your designed building. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>There was an
extensive discussion about this around a year ago on this list (check the
archives).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:gray'>Vikram Sami</span></b><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;color:gray'>, LEED AP</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:gray'>Sustainable Design
Analyst</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:gray'>1382 Peachtree St.
NE, Atlanta, GA 30309</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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404-443-7462 f: </span><span lang=ES style='font-size:9.0pt;
color:gray'>404.892.5823 </span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
color:gray'> e: <a href="mailto:vikram.sami@perkinswill.com"
target="_blank">vikram.sami@perkinswill.com</a> </span><span
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Vinay Devanathan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 08, 2010 5:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Demba Ndiaye<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] Exhaust Fans in Baseline</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:black'>Demba,<br>
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Thanks for your quick reply.<br>
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Regards,<br>
Vinay</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 5:13 PM,
Demba Ndiaye <<a href="mailto:Demba.Ndiaye@setty.com" target="_blank">Demba.Ndiaye@setty.com</a>>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>It is required
to also model the exhaust fans in the Baseline. Use same cfm and fan powers as
in the Proposed.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Demba NDIAYE</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Vinay Devanathan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 08, 2010 5:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] Exhaust Fans in Baseline</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Hello All,<br>
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Do we have to model the exhaust fans also according to Appendix G for a
Baseline model?<br>
If yes, how should we design the cfm?<br>
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Thank you very much.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Vinay</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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