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[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>dlombard@earthlink.net<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 09, 2010 10:47 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] LEED-NC v2.2 innovation in design credit for
reduction in peak energy load<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<h1><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>RE: innovation
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<p><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Has
anyone applied for and/ or gotten an innovation in design credit for reduction
in peak energy load for any version of LEED? We're working on a project under
LEED NC v2.2 and have significant reduction in lighting load during peak hours
by using solatubes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Please
provide any contact info and details if you can.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I
appreciate the assistance. It seems like the energy model can be manipulated to
show the project savings during peak times and that would be enough information
needed for a submittal to the GBCI.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>THANKS
for being LEEDers!!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Debra
Lombard<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-----Original Message----- <br>
From: Vinay Devanathan <br>
Sent: Jul 9, 2010 8:53 AM <br>
To: Demba Ndiaye <br>
Cc: "bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" <br>
Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Exhaust Fans in Baseline <br>
<br>
Demba and Vikram,<br>
<br>
Alright. Thanks for the clarification.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Vinay<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Exhaust fan power is to be the same for
both designs. You apportion the remaining baseline fan power allowance between
supply and return/relief.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Demba NDIAYE</span><span
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href="mailto:vinay.devanathan@gmail.com" target="_blank">vinay.devanathan@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 08, 2010 5:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Sami, Vikram<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Demba Ndiaye; <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org"
target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] Exhaust Fans in Baseline<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span
style='color:black'>Vikram,<br>
<br>
Thanks for your reply. <br>
<br>
So, does it mean I will have to model the exhaust fan in the baseline model but
in a fashion such that it consumes power proportionate to your proposed design
(supply, return and exhaust) but falls within the Allowable Fan System bhp
value of Appendix G. Am I right? <br>
<br>
Thank you.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Vinay<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'>On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Sami, Vikram <<a
href="mailto:Vikram.Sami@perkinswill.com" target="_blank">Vikram.Sami@perkinswill.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I'm pretty sure that your fan power
allowance in 90.1 is for all fan energy (including exhaust). So for example if
your baseline fan allowance is 20kW (hypothetical), you will need to apportion
that allowance between supply and exhaust similar to your designed building. </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>There was an extensive discussion about
this around a year ago on this list (check the archives).</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;color:black'> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org"
target="_blank">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a> [mailto:<a
href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Vinay Devanathan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 08, 2010 5:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Demba Ndiaye<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] Exhaust Fans in Baseline</span><span
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span
style='color:black'>Demba,<br>
<br>
Thanks for your quick reply.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Vinay<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'>On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Demba Ndiaye <<a
href="mailto:Demba.Ndiaye@setty.com" target="_blank">Demba.Ndiaye@setty.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Vinay, </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>It is required to also model the exhaust
fans in the Baseline. Use same cfm and fan powers as in the Proposed.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>______________</span><span
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Demba NDIAYE</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Vinay Devanathan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 08, 2010 5:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] Exhaust Fans in Baseline</span><span
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'>Hello All,<br>
<br>
Do we have to model the exhaust fans also according to Appendix G for a
Baseline model?<br>
If yes, how should we design the cfm?<br>
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Thank you very much.<br>
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