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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Robert Gengelbach <rgengelbach@sustainablemech.com><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> dlombard@earthlink.net; bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Fri, July 9, 2010 10:53:42 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Bldg-sim] LEED-NC v2.2 innovation in design credit for reduction in peak energy load<BR></FONT><BR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>dlombard@earthlink.net<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 09, 2010 10:47 AM<BR><B>To:</B> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Bldg-sim] LEED-NC v2.2 innovation in design credit for reduction in peak energy load</SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt">Has anyone applied for and/ or gotten an innovation in design credit for reduction in peak energy load for any version of LEED? We're working on a project under LEED NC v2.2 and have significant reduction in lighting load during peak hours by using solatubes.</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt">Please provide any contact info and details if you can.</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt">I appreciate the assistance. It seems like the energy model can be manipulated to show the project savings during peak times and that would be enough information needed for a submittal to the GBCI.</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt">THANKS for being LEEDers!!</SPAN></P>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt">Debra Lombard</SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Vinay Devanathan <BR>Sent: Jul 9, 2010 8:53 AM <BR>To: Demba Ndiaye <BR>Cc: "bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" <BR>Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Exhaust Fans in Baseline <BR><BR>Demba and Vikram,<BR><BR>Alright. Thanks for the clarification.<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Vinay</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 9pt">On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Demba Ndiaye <<A href="mailto:Demba.Ndiaye@setty.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:Demba.Ndiaye@setty.com">Demba.Ndiaye@setty.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Exhaust fan power is to be the same for both designs. You apportion the remaining baseline fan power allowance between supply and return/relief.</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Vinay Devanathan [mailto:<A href="mailto:vinay.devanathan@gmail.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:vinay.devanathan@gmail.com">vinay.devanathan@gmail.com</A>] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 08, 2010 5:29 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Sami, Vikram<BR><B>Cc:</B> Demba Ndiaye; <A href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</A></SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Vikram,<BR><BR>Thanks for your reply. <BR><BR>So, does it mean I will have to model the exhaust fan in the baseline model but in a fashion such that it consumes power proportionate to your proposed design (supply, return and exhaust) but falls within the Allowable Fan System bhp value of Appendix G. Am I right? <BR><BR>Thank you.<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Vinay</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Sami, Vikram <<A href="mailto:Vikram.Sami@perkinswill.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:Vikram.Sami@perkinswill.com">Vikram.Sami@perkinswill.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I'm pretty sure that your fan power allowance in 90.1 is for all fan energy (including exhaust). So for example if your baseline fan allowance is 20kW (hypothetical), you will need to apportion that allowance between supply and exhaust similar to your designed building. </SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">There was an extensive discussion about this around a year ago on this list (check the archives).</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</A> [mailto:<A href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Vinay Devanathan<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 08, 2010 5:15 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Demba Ndiaye<BR><B>Cc:</B> <A href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Bldg-sim] Exhaust Fans in Baseline</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Demba,<BR><BR>Thanks for your quick reply.<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Vinay</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Demba Ndiaye <<A href="mailto:Demba.Ndiaye@setty.com" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:Demba.Ndiaye@setty.com">Demba.Ndiaye@setty.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">It is required to also model the exhaust fans in the Baseline. Use same cfm and fan powers as in the Proposed.</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</A> [mailto:<A href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Vinay Devanathan<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 08, 2010 5:09 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> [Bldg-sim] Exhaust Fans in Baseline</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Hello All,<BR><BR>Do we have to model the exhaust fans also according to Appendix G for a Baseline model?<BR>If yes, how should we design the cfm?<BR><BR>Thank you very much.<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Vinay</SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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