<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Is the document now updated?<br><br>Saleh<br><br>--- On <b>Tue, 6/29/10, Pegues, James F CAR <i>&lt;James.F.Pegues@carrier.utc.com&gt;</i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Pegues, James F CAR &lt;James.F.Pegues@carrier.utc.com&gt;<br>Subject: [Bldg-sim]  question<br>To: bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>Date: Tuesday, June 29, 2010, 3:27 PM<br><br><div id="yiv908603351">


 
 

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;">BLDG-SIM readers should be aware the PDF attached to the previous
e-mail contains outdated and factually incorrect information for at least one of
the software tools listed.</span></p> 

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;">When a document like this is posted by a software vendor, it
should only include data for that vendor’s own tool.&nbsp; It should omit all other
data since a software vendor cannot vouch for the accuracy of information about
features and capabilities of competitor’s tools.</span></p> 

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;">James Pegues</span></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;">Development Manager, E20-II Software</span></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;">Carrier Corporation</span></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;">Syracuse, NY, USA</span></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black;"><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:software.systems@carrier.utc.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=software.systems@carrier.utc.com">software.systems@carrier.utc.com</a></span></p> 

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[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Hintz,
Scott F<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, June 26, 2010 10:51 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] question</span></p> 

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: navy;">Latest version of this that’s been posted here a few times. What
would be great is if developers of other tools like IES and TRNSYS would fill
this out too.</span></p> 

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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: red;">Scott Hintz, LEED<sup>®</sup> AP BD+C</span></b></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;;">C.D.S.
Engineer III</span></b><b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: navy;"></span></b></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;;">Trane
Commercial Systems</span></b></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;;">Ingersoll
Rand</span></b></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;;">3600
Pammel Creek Road</span></b></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;;">La
Crosse, WI 54601-7599</span></b></p> 

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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;;">Office
(608) 787-3926</span></b></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;;">Fax
(608) 787-3005</span></b></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;;">Email:
<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:scottf.hintz@trane.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=scottf.hintz@trane.com">cdshelp@trane.com</a></span></b></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;;">Website:
</span></b><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.trane.com/Commercial/DesignAnalysis/Default.aspx?i=898"><b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;;">www.tranecds.com</span></b></a><b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;;"></span></b></p> 

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: windowtext;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: windowtext;">
Chris Yates [mailto:chris@zed-uk.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 25, 2010 4:42 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] question</span><span style="color: windowtext;"></span></p> 

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;">Mike,<br>
<br>
It depends on what you are trying to accomplish. If you need LEED or Ashrae
90.1 analysis then DOE, Equest and E+ seem to be the only ones that handle the
waterside hvac in the prescribed manner. They are all free.<br>
<br>
TAS now has an A90.1 tool. It looks easy to use but as I haven't used it I
can't speak authoritativley.<br>
<br>
I heard of users modelling for A90.1 with alternative tools whilst handling the
waterside with seperate calculations. Of these tools IES is probably the
easiest and fastest simulating. If you do not require code compliance I would
probably recommend IES as the commercial option for large buildings.<br>
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I hope that this helps.<br>
<br>
Chris<br>
<br>
On 24/06/2010 21:30, Sami, Vikram wrote: </p> 

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">It has CA defaults, but does
that matter? </span></p> 

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: gray;">Vikram Sami</span></b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: gray;">, LEED AP</span></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: gray;">Sustainable Design Analyst</span></p> 

<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: gray;">1382 Peachtree St. NE, Atlanta, GA
30309</span></p> 

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f: </span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: gray;" lang="ES">404.892.5823&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: gray;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; e: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:vikram.sami@perkinswill.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=vikram.sami@perkinswill.com">vikram.sami@perkinswill.com</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.perkinswill.com/"><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: gray; text-decoration: none;">www.perkinswill.com</span></a></span></p> 

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the broader goals of society</span></p> 

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;;"> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>
[<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>mike steadman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 24, 2010 4:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] question</span></p> 

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;;">Hi,</span></p> 

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;;">What software do you suggest for Modeling
Commercial buildings?</span></p> 

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;;">I live in Michigan work for a company doing
energy audits from 5000-120000 square feet.</span></p> 

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;;">Energy Plus -over my head</span></p> 

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;;">equest-CA defaults</span></p> 

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;;">DOE 2.1 or DOE 2.2 ?</span></p> 

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;;">Would like a free option and one that I have
to buy?</span></p> 

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;;">Thank you </span></p> 

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;sans-serif&quot;;">Mike</span></p> 

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