There are some equations to calculate them. The psychrometric chart does not help lot. I used to calculate PMV/PPD with my own VB 6. But there are a few important PMV/PPD equations behind the VB6.0 from some references that I forgot.<div>
<br></div><div>There is nothing to do with climate consultants, BTW.</div><div><br><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Mary Wyllie <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:MWyllie@hiscutt-aia.com">MWyllie@hiscutt-aia.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="blue" face="Humanst521 BT"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Humanst521 BT";color:blue">I uploaded a
Psychrometric Chart that I created using a free program called Climate
Consultant.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">
<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Jason Wendel<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, June 11, 2010 12:34
PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> 'Bridgette Baugher';
'<a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a>'<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bldg-sim] ASHRAE
55-2004 Thermal Comfort Spreadsheet</span></font><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman""></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">For LEED 3.0 (2009) the wording is
“Upload supporting documentation with PMV/PPD calculation, ASHRAE comfort
tool results, and/or psychrometric comfort zone chart from Standard 55”</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">For LEED 2.2 you just had to provide a
narrative, but 3.0 requires the actual results from the calculations. I
may just have to buy ASHRAE’s “Thermal Comfort Tool”, I was
just hoping there was something else available.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">-Jason</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> Bridgette
Baugher [mailto:<a href="mailto:BBaugher@southlandind.com" target="_blank">BBaugher@southlandind.com</a>] <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, June 11, 2010 10:29
AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Jason Wendel<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> RE: [Bldg-sim] ASHRAE
55-2004 Thermal Comfort Spreadsheet</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">I would be interested to see if anyone
has actually done a calculation for this. It’s been a while since
submitting this credit, but if I remember correctly, the only requirement from
LEED was a narrative from the engineer.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> Jason Wendel
[mailto:<a href="mailto:jwendel@heatheng.com" target="_blank">jwendel@heatheng.com</a>] <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, June 11, 2010 12:23
PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Bridgette Baugher<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> RE: [Bldg-sim] ASHRAE
55-2004 Thermal Comfort Spreadsheet</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">IEQc7.2 is a survey of the occupants,
but IEQc7.1 – Thermal Comfort – Design requires complying with
ASHRAE 55.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">-Jason</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> Bridgette
Baugher [mailto:<a href="mailto:BBaugher@southlandind.com" target="_blank">BBaugher@southlandind.com</a>] <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, June 11, 2010 10:20
AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Jason Wendel<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> RE: [Bldg-sim] ASHRAE
55-2004 Thermal Comfort Spreadsheet</span></font></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">How would you calculate this? I
thought it was a survey of the occupants.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><font size="1" color="#1f497d" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D;text-transform:uppercase">EIT, LEED AP</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><font size="1" color="#1f497d" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D">Energy
Engineer</span></font><font size="2" color="#e36c0a"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#E36C0A"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="1" color="#1f497d" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D">Southland Industries</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="1" color="#1f497d" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D">22340 Dresden Street, Suite 177</span></font><font size="1" color="#1f497d" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D"></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="1" color="#1f497d" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D">Dulles</span></font><font size="1" color="#1f497d" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D">, VA 20166</span></font><font size="1" color="#1f497d" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D"></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="1" color="#1f497d" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D">Direct: 703.834.2426</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">
<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>]
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Jason Wendel<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, June 11, 2010 12:04
PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
'<a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a>'<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [Bldg-sim] ASHRAE 55-2004
Thermal Comfort Spreadsheet</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Does
anyone have a spreadsheet to calculate PMV-PPD for ASHRAE 55-2004?</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">-Jason</span></font></p>
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