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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I think that requirement G3.1
(10-d): <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> “Where no
cooling system exists or no cooling system has been specified, the cooling
system shall be identical to the system modeled in the baseline building design”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>plays also. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>_______________<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Demba NDIAYE<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bishop,
Bill<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 18, 2010 10:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Fareed Syed; Snarski, Marty; bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] TRACE modeling question - Heating Only<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Marty,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>I usually model heating-only systems in my proposed model as PTAC
systems for Appendix G. I use a high cooling thermostat temperature in the
proposed and baseline models to minimize cooling energy in those spaces.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Bill<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:green'>P</span><span style='color:green'> </span><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Fareed Syed<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 18, 2010 10:36 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Snarski, Marty; bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] TRACE modeling question - Heating Only</span><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>In my past experience, I had assigned those heated only spaces
to VAV systems for the baseline model. I think that’s the most appropriate way
of complying Appendix G. And this way it went through without any comments from
the reviewer.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Fareed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Snarski,
Marty<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 18, 2010 10:34 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] TRACE modeling question - Heating Only<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Hello, everyone.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>I've got a question that I've never been clear on and
figured I'd turn to the experts (you all).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>In appendix G, Table G3.1.1b, it's stated that all
conditioned spaces shall be modeled as being both heated and cooled, even if no
cooling systems exists, for both the proposed and baseline buildings.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>We typically place Cabinet Unit Heaters in stairways and vestibules,
and don't worry about cooling those spaces. So, my question is, though
TRACE has a couple "Heating only" systems options, Appendix G says
that these cannot be selected. So, what is a common solution? The
other systems in the building are VAV, so, can those spaces just be grouped on
to there?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Thanks for any advice you'd have!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Martin Snarski </span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> LEED<sup>®</sup>
AP</span> <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
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