Yes to you Nick! So let's nest them. HVAC Sys One (aka the "HVAC Zone" or the Parent HVAC system), has some Child thermal zones, e.g. TZ space 1 Zone, TZ space 2 Zone, TZ space 3 Zone , etc., etc. (as many as you check) as Children. These Thermal Zones are then Parents of the Child spaces: TZ space 1, TZ space 2, TZ space 3, etc., etc. So the Parent HVAC System (aka HVAC zone by way of ASHRAE std 90, etc), has Child Thermal Zones, which are the Parents of the Child Spaces. If you actively name your spaces, their zones, and their HVAC systems, you might stand a chance of seeing the light of day.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I agree 110%! In this case, there’s a method to the
madness though…</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">My admittedly confusing wording stems from a <i>minor </i>wizard
screen UI quirk that I would suggest considering to address in future eQuest
releases: </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">In the second DD shell wizard screen, a user may define a custom
“shell” and ”zone” footprints (screenshot attached and
below). This screen can be misleading to new users (as recently
illustrated) by consistently use the term “zone” when one is really
more correctly defining “spaces.” Whether these spaces should
end up being individual/distinct thermal zones or tied together as a larger thermal
zone(s) (i.e. core/perimeter/custom) depends entirely on later wizard screens, wizard
system type selection and/or detailed mode user input.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">While I’m sure this space/zone distinction has received an
exhaustive level of attention now for anyone following this conversation, it
might still help future new users and those of us trying to guide them if this
UI item could be polished out a bit further.</span></p>
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<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Carol
Gardner<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 13, 2010 10:49 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Carol Gardner<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a>; Jacob Faiola<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] equest zoning and spaces</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">I didn't see Nicks answer last
night or I'd have just gone to bed. However, I have another thing that might
help. Nick said "define each space as a zone" which is confusing to
some as it stands. They way I think of it for clarity is "define each
space as a thernal zone" which then gets assigned to an HVAC zone. Might seem
picky but in this work all clarity is good. Hope you agree, Nick.<br>
Carol</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Carol Gardner <<a href="mailto:gems@spiritone.com" target="_blank">gems@spiritone.com</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jacob Faiola wrote:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi all;<br>
If I specify only 1 zone with multiple spaces for a high accuracy
residential home model,<br>
can I still specify precise equipment loads for each space appliance by
appliance?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The equipment loads are input into a space not a zone, so
yes</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> Also, can you define the footprint of the spaces in
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<p class="MsoNormal">Either. I would suggest DD wizard.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> thanks,<br>
Jacob Faiola<br>
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