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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Seems like remote source chilled
water would be treated like purchased heat under G3.1.1.1, where you would come
up with an equivalent cost rate based on how the remote central chiller plant
is purchasing energy and all other efficiencies related to producing chilled
water and pumping to your building.  Then you would have to use that rate
in both baseline and proposed buildings, similar to an electric or gas rate.  This
is just my guess, anyone else have an idea from Bldg-Sim mailing list?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>So to answer your original
question in HAP, you would choose remote source chilled water, the same as proposed
building, with same cost rate, then change all baseline cooling  to
chilled water under each of your systems.  This will essentially make
chiller water “cost neutral” and not give you an opportunity to
improve in cooling efficiency over the baseline building.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I came across this document which
may be helpful as well  <a
href="http://www.usgbc.org/ShowFile.aspx?DocumentID=4176">http://www.usgbc.org/ShowFile.aspx?DocumentID=4176</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> hap-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:hap-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ahmed
Azhari<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 06, 2010 10:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> hap-users@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Hap-users] Baseline Plant Type<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Hello users,<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>I am modeling a residential baseline building according to
ASHRAE 90.1 where I have packaged DX Fan coil units in the zones. In HAP4.4
when I define a plant for this system what should I choose under the plant type
as indicated below? My proposed building is remote source chilled water.  <o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>I appreciate any help. <o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>

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