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color:black'>I think the 2007 way is the more correct one. Why should you make
one zone artificial worse and on better? (If you have different WWR in different
Zones)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Von:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Dana Troy<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Dienstag, 13. April 2010 21:16<br>
<b>An:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] Easy Question<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As
per Addendum A to 90.1-2004, you do NOT need to distribute the baseline glazing
uniformly in horizontal bands across the four orientations. ASHRAE 90.1-2007 is
basically 90.1-2004 incorporating the changes made in Addendum A. All addenda
can be found here: </span><span lang=EN-US><a
href="http://www.ashrae.org/technology/page/132">http://www.ashrae.org/technology/page/132</a></span><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If
you read Table G3.1.5, it only states that the glass must not exceed 40% and
must be distributed by the same proportions as the proposed building.
Therefore, if you have a building with 50% WWR, you just have to reduce <i>each
window by 20%</i>. This will still ensure that you have the same proportions
(e.g. 20% of all of the glass on the north, 30% of all of the glass on the
south, 40% of all of the glass on the east, and 10% of all of the glass on the
west).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If
your baseline WWR is less than 40%, then leave the window proportions, shapes,
and sizes the same in the baseline and the proposed design.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US
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has all been well documented on the archives as well: </span><span lang=EN-US><a
href="http://lists.onebuilding.org/htdig.cgi/bldg-sim-onebuilding.org/2007-April/004077.html">http://lists.onebuilding.org/htdig.cgi/bldg-sim-onebuilding.org/2007-April/004077.html</a></span><span
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Carol
Gardner [mailto:cmg750@gmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 13, 2010 11:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rimes, Christie<br>
<b>Cc:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] Easy Question<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US>Perhaps I'm missing something, but
didn't he ask us how to <b>calculate </b>the window to wall ratio? If I'm not
missing something, we need to know specifically, is the wall number wall only
or wall + glass. This level of information is shown on the LV-D report in
eQUEST, if he's using eQUEST. That's why I said, "it depends".<br>
<br>
Carol<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US>On Tue, Apr 13,
2010 at 11:45 AM, Rimes, Christie <<a href="mailto:Christie.Rimes@wspfk.com">Christie.Rimes@wspfk.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US>For the 90.1-2004 I have always
taken it as Luke explained, evenly distributed the WWR of the entire building.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US>However for 90.1-2007 I have
interpreted the description to mean that the windows stay in the same location
as the proposed building?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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margin-left:35.4pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Error!
Filename not specified.</span></b><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span
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margin-left:35.4pt'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a
href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Vikram Sami<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 13, 2010 11:38 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> JohannesHopf; <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org"
target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a>; LukeWilson<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] Easy Question<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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point. I've never noticed this before, but this is different from 2004. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>2004
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<p><i>Vertical fenestration areas for new buildings and additions shall equal
that in the proposed design or 40% of gross abovegrade wall area, whichever
is smaller, and shall be distributed uniformly in horizontal bands across the
four orientations.</i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>It
looks like they have changed it (shall be distributed on each face of the
building in the same proportions in the proposed design) to be more
representative of the actualy building. I think 2007 is asking you to
distibute it by orientation (if you have 40% on the west, 25% south, 20%north
and 25% east in your design, you will have 40% on the west, 25% south,
20%north and 25% east in your baseline). This makes sense because otherwise
we were doing the striping as well as the 4 rotations which was a little
redndant. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>(Not
so easy question after all, but a good one). <o:p></o:p></p>
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--- On <b>Tue, 4/13/10, Wilson, Luke <i><<a
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From: Wilson, Luke <<a href="mailto:LWilson@integral-group.net"
target="_blank">LWilson@integral-group.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Easy Question<br>
To: "Hopf, Johannes" <<a href="mailto:johannes.hopf@dreso.com"
target="_blank">johannes.hopf@dreso.com</a>>, "<a
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>ASHRAE
90.1-2007 Table G3.1 reads:<br>
"Vertical fenestration areas for new buildings and additions shall equal
that in the proposed design or 40% of gross above-grade wall area, whichever
is smaller, and shall be distributed on each face of the building in the same
proportions in the proposed design."<br>
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I wasn't aware that this requirement had changed in the 2007 version (thanks
Cam!).<br>
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Luke<br>
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Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Easy Question<br>
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I can't find this section in Table 1.3.? I just find the 40% limitation for<br>
the baseline building. Can you post an excerpt?<br>
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Best regards<br>
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Johannes <br>
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John,<br>
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I'm assuming you are using ASHRAE 90.1-2007 Appendix G for your Baseline?<br>
If so, the way I read it from Table G3.1 is that you should evenly distribute<br>
the WWR of the entire building, not for each floor. Therefore I would use<br>
11.4% for each floor.<br>
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Luke<br>
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Subject: [Bldg-sim] Easy Question<br>
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I have a two story building. For the baseline I am evenly distributing
the<br>
fenestration.<br>
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The first floor window area is 462.2 ft^2<br>
The second floor window area is 647.1 ft^2<br>
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The first floor wall area is 4858 ft^2<br>
The second floor wall area is 4858 ft^2<br>
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In the base line model do I use:<br>
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First floor 9.5%<br>
Second floor 13.3%<br>
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OR<br>
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First floor 11.4%<br>
Second floor 11.4%<br>
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