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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Here is an attached link for such a
system. (please note I am not promoting it I am just aware of it’s
existence should people be interested)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Home Pavegen Systems <a
href="http://www.pavegensystems.co.uk/">www.pavegensystems.co.uk</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Michael Keohane<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Haynes, Glenn<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 12 April 2010 16:53<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Chris Yates;
near_ej@yahoo.com; bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bldg-sim] Not a
simulation question,but need help looking for vendor/productdeveloper for
piezoelectric application / floor tiles.</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<li class=MsoNormal style='color:windowtext;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo7'><font size=2
color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:blue'>The cushioning effect may give the tile floor a softer
feel, perhaps like walking on a thin carpet? Just a thought.</span></font><span
lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:windowtext;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo7'><font size=2
color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:blue'>I see some difficult technical issues to be resolved,
however, like sand and dirt (and sometimes liquids) between the moving
plates. Perhaps a flexible impervious cover (sealant) could be found
that will last a few years.</span></font><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:windowtext;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo7'><font size=2
color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:blue'>The idea is truly interesting and worth looking into,
especially for floors with very heavy foot traffic such as airports
and some public buildings. How about the New York Stock Exchange
(Harness some of that energy! Might mitigate the need for public
power for the entire city)?</span></font><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></li>
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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;color:windowtext'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Glenn Haynes,</span></font><font
color=black><span lang=EN-GB style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><font size=2
color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:blue'>Middletown</span></font></st1:City><font size=2 color=blue
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:blue'>, <st1:State w:st="on">CT</st1:State></span></font></st1:place><font
size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:blue'> </span></font><font color=black><span
lang=EN-GB style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext'>
bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Chris Yates<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, April 11, 2010 7:11
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'Chris Yates';
near_ej@yahoo.com; bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bldg-sim] Not a
simulation question,but need help looking for vendor/ productdeveloper for
piezoelectric application / floor tiles.</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Neeraj,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I apologise for my
response. I do not wish it to reflect in any way on the professionalism and
help that this list endeavours to supply. I was out of order, sorry.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I seek to supply a
more appropriate reply (and in doing so open myself to ridicule because there
are probably a couple of mistakes in my working out!). Here goes:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>The feasibility of a
piezoelectric system implemented as floor tiles does seem to fly in the face of
my understanding of <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Newton</st1:place></st1:City>,
Force and Work.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Average person has a
mass of, say, 70kg.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Force exerted by
both feet, therefore = mass x gravity = 70 x 9.81 = 686.7Newtons or 343 per
foot<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>For the transfer of
energy with every foot fall Work must be done to the tile. That means it must
undertake some deflection. The resulting work transferred to the tile in Joules
would be similar to the elastic potential energy equation: EPE = ˝ x kX<sup>2</sup>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Let’s say the
tile deflects 1mm under one foot. Therefore the spring constant k for the tile
would be 343350N/m and EPE of the tile whilst stood on would be 0.172 Joules.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>This is just EPE
stored by the tile whilst loaded. The tile will probably consist of the piezo
device and a substrate which the energy will dissipate over. Let’s be
generous and assume 20% of that work is converted to electrical energy. We are
now talking about 0.034 Joules per foot fall. The rest will escape as heat.
Considering a human metabolism whilst walking will be of the order of 120 Watts
plus (<st1:place w:st="on">Watts</st1:place> = Joules / second) the energy
recovered through floor tiles would be minimal.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I hope this is
useful.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Chris<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Chris Yates<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 10 April 2010 12:33<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> near_ej@yahoo.com;
bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bldg-sim] Not a simulation
question, but need help looking for vendor/ product developer for piezoelectric
application / floor tiles.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Neeraj,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>An interesting
application. Although I cannot help you with the piezoelectric devices you
seek, I do know a very reliable manufacturer of whoopee cushions. If these
could somehow be connected into a turbine generator system, then I’m sure
you could generate an equivalent amount of power. Other benefits include:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt'><font size=2
color="#1f497d" face=Symbol><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'>·</span></font><font size=1 color="#1f497d"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'>
</span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>With the deluxe
“auto inflating” range, the cushions would remove air from the room
with every footfall – energy free ventilation!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt'><font size=2
color="#1f497d" face=Symbol><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'>·</span></font><font size=1 color="#1f497d"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'>
</span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Whoopee cushion
technology is tried and tested, having been developed over the last 80 years.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt'><font size=2
color="#1f497d" face=Symbol><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'>·</span></font><font size=1 color="#1f497d"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'>
</span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Zero ODP & GWP<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt'><font size=2
color="#1f497d" face=Symbol><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'>·</span></font><font size=1 color="#1f497d"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'>
</span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Fun, and a possible
lasting attraction encouraging users back to the building for years to come!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Best regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Chris Yates<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>"near_ej@yahoo.com"<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 10 April 2010 04:10<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Bldg-sim] Not a
simulation question, but need help looking for vendor/ product developer for
piezoelectric application / floor tiles.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hello all,<br>
<br>
We are exploring the feasibility of deploying a piezoelectric application in a
large (approx. 2,00,000 sqft), 9 stories tall, public building coming up in <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">India</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<br>
The building is being planned right now -- currently in the design development
phase rolling fast towards final design and tendering stage(s). It is expected
to see a very high foot fall on the ground and first floor levels and that's
where I need further help. Is there a company available to design and sell an
application or a product that will generate electricity -- perhaps using some
sort of floor tiles?<br>
<br>
Any of you who could help me may write to me directly since this is not a
simulation question.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Neeraj<br>
<br>
Neeraj Kapoor<br>
t: +91.99581.70018<br>
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