<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div>Thanks Bill, much appreciated. </div><div><br></div><div>Pretty much all text books send me to sleep anyway but then I do have Narcolepsy. </div><div>I remember having to read that chapter and the ones on ventilation and infiltration. They too were fairly technical and hence almost automatically sent me to sleep. </div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div><div>Paul</div><div><br></div><div><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On 5 Apr 2010, at 14:05, "Bishop, Bill" <<a href="mailto:wbishop@pathfinder-ea.com">wbishop@pathfinder-ea.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="country-region">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Paul,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">I do not remember there being any
ASHRAE-specific questions on the exam. It was oriented much more toward
principles of building physics and modeling. General knowledge of HVAC system
types and control strategies will be helpful, but you don’t have to be an
HVAC designer to pass. If you’re going to read any of the ASHRAE
Fundamentals, I’d look at Chapter 19 – Energy Estimating and
Modeling Methods. Several of the sections in the chapter cover items listed in
the Detailed Content Outline provided by ASHRAE. (Warning: with apologies to
the authors, <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Ch.</st1:place></st1:country-region>
19 is very technical and will put you to sleep trying to read it.) Also, there
were no software-specific questions, so I wouldn’t be too concerned if
your references are starting to get old. One of the things I read was “Guidelines
for Energy Simulation of Commercial Buildings”, from 1992, and available
here:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><a href="http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?query_id=0&page=0&osti_id=5291948"><a href="http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?query_id=0&page=0&osti_id=5291948">http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?query_id=0&page=0&osti_id=5291948</a></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">I didn’t have access to AM11 so I
can’t compare.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">
<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b><span style="font-weight:
bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Paul Carey<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, April 04, 2010 10:01
AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> 'mike barker'; 'Brian A.
Turner'; <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org"><a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a></a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bldg-sim] ASHRAE
BEMP Exam - Study Group ?</span></font><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman""><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Mike, et al<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Yes, I’d
join in on this study group, so please do set it up. I’d join it
for sure and you’d probably have at least 3 or 4 other members from ZED
too.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Like you , we at
ZED-UK believe that this assessment is going to be a good way to stand out from
the crowd. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">My only slight
concern is whether this is going to just be a matter of learning ASHRAE 90.1
etc inside out and then being tested on that or is it going to be a more in
depth look at whether you know what the principles of building physics are? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Can anyone give
me a clue on this?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">I have taught
Building Physics and Computational Modelling both within academia and as a
trainer for commercial software providers. I try and teach some
principles even within my short 3 day software courses as it’s imperative
to do so, in order that people can get a grasp of why you do certain things in
models, particularly in a low energy passive naturally ventilated
building. This sort of work seems to me to be partly contrary to ASHRAE
regulations require and so I’m just wondering if my slightly lesser
knowledge of exact types of systems will be a hindrance. I know the
fundamentals and general elements of most systems having served my apprenticeship
as a BMS controls engineer, but I am not a complex system mechanical HVAC
designer. I am a physicist after all, that’s what my PhD is in.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">The AM11 book,
in my view although getting quite old now, is a really good guide in how to
scope and carry out a simulation study. It is however quite a bit out of
date, particularly when you look at the tools it has used. We’ve
suggested a re-write to CIBSE a few times and I think it will happen at some
point, but I think it’s going to take a while.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
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<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b><span style="font-weight:
bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>mike barker<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> 03 April 2010 06:40<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> 'Brian A. Turner';
<a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org"><a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a></a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bldg-sim] ASHRAE
BEMP Exam - Study Group ?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">There is talk of ASHRAE running a training
course soon ? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">And well done to Dave, you must be one of
the very few ASHRAE BEMP’s about !<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Are there any people out there interested
in forming a study group ? We have ASHRAE and IBPSA Forums on <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/"><a href="http://www.linkedin.com">www.linkedin.com</a></a> that would provide a home
and allow all us to gather and share study material. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">ASHRAE Fundamental seems to be a good
starting point, but which chapters ? The 90.1 User Manual is the
cornerstone ? The books by Muneer and Moss are definatelly required
reading anyway, but the Stein / Reynolds book is a slab of a book and may only
help non-US people get up to speed with <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region> terminology. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">I don’t have any of the CIBSA
material yet – how useful is the </span></font><i><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:navy;font-style:italic">Applications
Manual AM11: 1998, Building energy and environmental modeling </span></font></i><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-family:Arial;color:navy">? </span></font><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy">It seems a little long in the teeth ?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">The ASHRAE Standards are required for any
LEED work anyway<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">For those of us outside the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region>, the ASHRAE
BEMP and HBDP exams are an important opportunity to stand out in a world of
“dabblers”, and probably the only way to benchmark yourself against
the international community.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> David S Eldridge
[mailto:DSE@grummanbutkus.com] <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> 02 April 2010 05:54 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org"><a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a></a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bldg-sim] ASHRAE
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Very rigorous! The guidebook is not
joking about requiring two years of experience on modeling projects as an
eligibility to take the exam.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">The Detailed Content Outline in the
guidebook should give you an excellent idea of the topics.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;font-weight:bold">David S. Eldridge, Jr.</span></font><font color="#244061"><span style="color:#244061">, P</span></font><font color="#1f497d"><span style="color:#1F497D">.</span></font><font color="#244061"><span style="color:#244061">E</span></font><font color="#1f497d"><span style="color:#1F497D">.</span></font><font color="#244061"><span style="color:#244061">, LEED AP BD+C, BEMP, HBDP<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">
<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b><span style="font-weight:
bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Brian A. Turner<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, April 02, 2010 9:23
AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org"><a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a></a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [Bldg-sim] ASHRAE BEMP
Exam<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black">I am interested in
sitting for the ASHRAE Building Energy Modeling Professional certification exam
and am looking for feedback from anyone that has taken the exam. Any
advice on exam prep, etc. would be appreciated. I’ve already
checked out the info on <a href="http://ashrae.org">ashrae.org</a>; the sample exam questions are limited so it
is tough to get a feel for the overall exam content and rigor.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black">Thanks in advance,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black">Brian</span></font><font size="1" color="gray" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;
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