<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><pre>ASHARE 55 does give a bit of information about the thermal comfort in section 5.2.3.<br><br>However the section says that the elevated speed can be used to offset the temperature by not more than 30 C (5.40 F).<br><br>The air speed considered here is however in the range of 0.8 m/s to 1m/s. However the ceiling fans designed in here in India<br><br>gives an air speed of about 2m/s for which the temperature that could be offset can be more.<br><br>No specific relation as such is given as to determine the temperature that can be offset for higher air speeds.I have referred the <br><br>Thermal Comfort chapter of the ASHRAE Fundamentals handbook,however no particular specifics is given as to relation between the<br><br>Air speed felt on the skin and the temperature that can be offset due to it. Definitely
the personal comfort level also varies with person to person.<br><br>If anyone knows about any other standard or reference manual giving information on this matter or can throw more light on this it<br><br>will be greatly appreciated.<br></pre><div> </div>Regards,<br><br><div>Sanjay Cholekar<br>+919326229841<div><br></div><div style="font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> sanyogita manu <sanyogitamanu@yahoo.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tue, 15 December, 2009 10:13:23 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Bldg-sim] Query on DesignBuilder and EnergyPlus: Impact of air velocity on thermal
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<div><span class="postbody">Hi, <br><br>I am trying to model the impact of ceiling fans on thermal comfort in a warm-humid climate, for a naturally ventilated building. Intial simulation runs obviously show a lot of discomfort with PMV going upto 5.5 during peak summer. We want to model ceiling fans so that the impact of air velocity on thermal comfort is captured. Naturally this wont lead to achieving thermal comfort conditions in the space but we feel that it should at least result in PMV coming down to 4-4.5. I am not sure if doing this is possible in DesignBuilder but I think one can specify an object called AirVelocity schedule in EnergyPlus, where one can input air velocity in m/s in one of the fields (the current EPlus default being 0.137). I want to know that if we modify (increase) the value of air velocity to about 0.7 (for ceiling fans), would it be used for comfort calculations? I thought the Fanger comfort model algorithms use air velocity
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calculations but I can't see that happening anywhere in the Eplus Engineering reference, which could also have been a resultant of my limited understanding of the subject matter. I also noticed that the Pierce model takes air velocity into account. Does this mean that we should rather look at the Pierce model rather than the Fanger model in order to arrive at an adaptive model of thermal comfort? What we basically want to do is to make sure that the increased air velocity is used for calculation of PMV in EnergyPlus to model the impact of ceiling fans. <br><br>I would be really grateful for any help. <br><br>Regards, </span><br> </div>
<p>Sanyogita Manu<br>Energy Efficiency Research Associate<br>USAID ECO-III Project<br>International Resources Group (IRG)<br>Hauz Khas, New Delhi 110016<br>Email: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:smanu@irgssa.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:smanu@irgssa.com">smanu@irgssa.com</a></p>
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