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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The <u>current</u> version of free sketchup (as of this month I believe)
does not support .dwg importing, actually. If you continue using any
older version – it shouldn’t lose this functionality (keep your
installation files). The Sketchup development team has been clear on
their intent to continue .dwg and other proprietary format file support in the
Pro version. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>**A moment on my soapbox**<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Our office took this as a cue to recognize that the free version
of Sketchup is explicitly intended for educational/trial purposes, however
powerful it may be – not for professional design use. Our office purchased
a Pro license in response to ensure continued support of import/export of .dwg
and other formats we use. I’d encourage others on bldg-sim to
consider this carefully. The cost:benefit ratio of the free version of Sketchup,
for many of us, is pretty extraordinary. To top it off it’s
actually fairly inexpensive as far as professional design tools go. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>**Stepping off the soapbox**<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>On a Sketchup-related note – I haven’t mentioned
this on [bldg-sim] yet, but Sketchup-savvy users using a version with .dwg
export support can actually export their models into AGI32 for photometric and rendering
lighting/daylight studies after a little work in CAD to ensure a clean import.
I might write up an illustrated guide or post the full scoop here at some point
in the future, but for those interested in learning immediately I’ll just
say to head over to the AGI32 forums to find a lengthy post (intended to
troubleshoot other AGI32-specific issues) where I composed a pretty decent
outline of the process to start.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>~Nick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#2D4D5E'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Stylus BT","sans-serif";
color:#2D4D5E'>NICK CATON, E.I.T.</span></b><b><span style='font-family:"Stylus BT","sans-serif";
color:#2D4D5E'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#2D4D5E'>fax 913 345.0617<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>www.smithboucher.com</span></a></span><u><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kevin Kyte<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 29, 2009 2:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jackson, Alan; EnergyPlus_Support@yahoogroups.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] [EnergyPlus_Support] I need advices for choosing
a GUI<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Free sketchup is not going to support dwg importing for much
longer.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Jackson, Alan
[mailto:ajackson@klingstubbins.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 29, 2009 1:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> EnergyPlus_Support@yahoogroups.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] [EnergyPlus_Support] I need advices for choosing
a GUI</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>In what sense?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If you mean it doesn’t have every single capability of
modeling like the IDF or Text editor would, yes. But nothing does. It’s
hard to keep up with the E+ developer cycle ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If you mean it doesn’t run off Energyplus 3.0. It does.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I don’t use it because it’s too expensive. I prefer
OpenStudio and the IDF Editor/Textpad because you have access to all the
capabilities that E+ has to offer, but it took me years to become even semi
comfortable (read: confident) with modeling through a txt file. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Either way maybe this should be moved over to BLDG-SIM. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;line-height:15.0pt'><span
style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Alan
Jackson, LEED AP<br>
KlingStubbins</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
EnergyPlus_Support@yahoogroups.com [mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@yahoogroups.com] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Emanuele Naboni<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 29, 2009 1:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> EnergyPlus_Support@yahoogroups.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] I need advices for choosing a GUI<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Yes, but Hevacomp does not have the capabilities of
EnergyPlus.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>-- <br>
Emanuele Naboni<br>
<br>
per l'Italia: 346.4133337<br>
from US: +39.346.4133337<br>
skype: emanuelenaboni<br>
MArch, PhD Building Science, LEED AP, EU licensed architect<br>
<br>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Josh K<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 29, 2009 12:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">EnergyPlus_Support@yahoogroups.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] I need advices for choosing a GUI</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='background:white'>Hello;<br>
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My feeling is that their currently is not a *perfect* GUI for EnergyPlus,
especially if you're interested in interoperability (ie IFC, gbXML, etc).
Designbuilder seems to be getting closest in this regard, but when I tested it
a while ago I found the modelling interface to be a bit clumsy and restrictive.
OpenStudio is not bad, but still needs a little work to be practical for every
day use (for instance, to my knowledge there is currently no good way to
specify a heat transfer surface's adjacency conditions). I currently use
ECOTECT, which had a lot of promise when I started using it three years ago but
has progressed exactly zero since then. I don't know much about the other
system you mention.<br>
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have their own advantages and disadvantages. If you're specifically interested
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respect, but neither OpenStudio nor ECOTECT currently have this capability. <br>
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Hello,<br>
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I want to learn EnergyPlus but I need a GUI. As it is a new activity for me, I
would like to find the better couple [E+/GUI] regarding my needs. I am mainly
interested in building energy simulation, particularly on the topics of energy
efficiency and the smart use of solar energy for solar passive designing. I saw
a lot of software on the web : Google Sketch Up with Openstudio, Designbuilder
(well described at Harvard), Ecotect...<br>
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How can I make the best choice? My choice will use the IFC standard. I saw another
software : Digital Project of Gehry Technologies which is based on Catia
(Dassault Systemes) that works with IFC standards, but has anyone made
simulation with [E+/this soft]?<br>
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Could you give me advices, please...<br>
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Best regards<br>
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B.Cavallier<o:p></o:p></p>
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