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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>In what sense?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If you mean it doesn’t have every single capability of modeling
like the IDF or Text editor would, yes. But nothing does. It’s hard to keep up
with the E+ developer cycle ;-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If you mean it doesn’t run off Energyplus 3.0. It does.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I don’t use it because it’s too expensive. I prefer OpenStudio
and the IDF Editor/Textpad because you have access to all the capabilities that
E+ has to offer, but it took me years to become even semi comfortable (read:
confident) with modeling through a txt file. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Either way maybe this should be moved over to BLDG-SIM. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Alan
Jackson, LEED AP<br>
KlingStubbins</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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EnergyPlus_Support@yahoogroups.com [mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@yahoogroups.com] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Emanuele Naboni<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 29, 2009 1:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> EnergyPlus_Support@yahoogroups.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] I need advices for choosing a GUI<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Yes, but Hevacomp does not have the capabilities of
EnergyPlus.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>2009/10/29 Jackson, Alan <<a
href="mailto:ajackson@klingstubbins.com">ajackson@klingstubbins.com</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>You should look
into Hevacomp which is being revamped for the US. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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background:white'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Alan Jackson,
LEED AP<br>
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background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a href="mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@yahoogroups.com"
target="_blank">EnergyPlus_Support@yahoogroups.com</a> [mailto:<a
href="mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">EnergyPlus_Support@yahoogroups.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Josh K<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 29, 2009 12:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:EnergyPlus_Support@yahoogroups.com" target="_blank">EnergyPlus_Support@yahoogroups.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [EnergyPlus_Support] I need advices for choosing a GUI</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='background:white'>Hello;<br>
<br>
My feeling is that their currently is not a *perfect* GUI for EnergyPlus,
especially if you're interested in interoperability (ie IFC, gbXML, etc).
Designbuilder seems to be getting closest in this regard, but when I tested it
a while ago I found the modelling interface to be a bit clumsy and restrictive.
OpenStudio is not bad, but still needs a little work to be practical for every
day use (for instance, to my knowledge there is currently no good way to
specify a heat transfer surface's adjacency conditions). I currently use
ECOTECT, which had a lot of promise when I started using it three years ago but
has progressed exactly zero since then. I don't know much about the other
system you mention.<br>
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To summarize: the three you mention will all probably work for you, and each
have their own advantages and disadvantages. If you're specifically interested
in IFC compatibility, I'm not sure about the status of DesignBuilder in this
respect, but neither OpenStudio nor ECOTECT currently have this capability. <br>
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Josh<o:p></o:p></p>
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background:white'>On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:14 AM, bcavallier <<a
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wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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Hello,<br>
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I want to learn EnergyPlus but I need a GUI. As it is a new activity for me, I
would like to find the better couple [E+/GUI] regarding my needs. I am mainly
interested in building energy simulation, particularly on the topics of energy
efficiency and the smart use of solar energy for solar passive designing. I saw
a lot of software on the web : Google Sketch Up with Openstudio, Designbuilder
(well described at Harvard), Ecotect...<br>
<br>
How can I make the best choice? My choice will use the IFC standard. I saw
another software : Digital Project of Gehry Technologies which is based on
Catia (Dassault Systemes) that works with IFC standards, but has anyone made
simulation with [E+/this soft]?<br>
<br>
Could you give me advices, please...<br>
<br>
Best regards<br>
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B.Cavallier<o:p></o:p></p>
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Manasc Isaac Architects Ltd.<br>
10225 100 Avenue :: Edmonton, AB T5J 0A1<br>
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