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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>EnergyPlus produces a simple summary table
for this called “Time Setpoint Not Met.” It has hours not met by zone
and for entire facility, taking into account coincidence. Results are separated
by heating and cooling as well as total time vs occupied times. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>EnergyPlus uses a deviation from setpoint
of 0.2C to trigger unmet time. I hear DOE2 uses a deviation of 1.0F as a
trigger. I think this is one area where 90.1 could be clearer. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Nick Caton<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, October 26, 2009
9:20 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Rosenberg, Michael I;
Crockett, Jim; Kendra Tupper<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bldg-sim] Ashrae
90.1 - Unmet hours</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Mike,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I appreciate you
bringing this up. This definition drives straight to the heart of
defining the issue-at-hand… Since I kinda presented both sides of
the issue at once – I’d like to clarify where I stand regarding
what the correct interpretation <u>should be</u>. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>The logic is as
follows: If a modeled year has 8,760 hours, can there be 10,000 unmet
load hours? By strict reading of the standard’s definition below, I
would put my foot down stating there can <u>only</u> be 8,760, at most. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>By common practice
however, it appears a majority (myself included) sum unmet cooling/heating
hours between the zones, even if they should fall on the same modeled hour,
against the intent of the standard. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>My pure speculation
(for what it’s worth, as a young EIT) is this practice developed because
eQuest BDL reports don’t present the crunched numbers in a way that makes
the sum of unmet load hours, as intended by 90.1, easy to determine. I
wouldn’t be shocked to learn other energy modeling software packages
generate LEED compliance summaries featuring unmet load hour totals in sync
with the real intent of ASHRAE 90.1.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>If there’s
anything I’ve learned from going out on a limb, it’s that I’m
sure to learn something whether I fall or not!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Rosenberg,
Michael I [mailto:michael.rosenberg@pnl.gov] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, October 26, 2009 7:39
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Nick Caton; Crockett, Jim;
bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Bldg-sim] Ashrae
90.1 - Unmet hours<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Nick,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Your interpretation is the correct one. According to the
definitions in Standard 90.1.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=Definitions><b><i><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>unmet
load hour:</span></font></i></b><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>
an hour in which one or more zones is outside of the thermostat setpoint range.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Mike<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Senior
Commercial Buildings Energy Analyst</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>ENERGY
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Crockett, Jim;
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bldg-sim] Ashrae
90.1 - Unmet hours<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Jim,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>That’s
actually a really good question that I was afraid to ask when I first
encountered it – kudos to you! I’ve currently resolved to
follow what others seemed to be doing within and outside of my office:
Sum up all unmet hours for cooling and heating between the zones just as you
describe. In your example, I’d agree that the unmet hours of
your 301 zone building total 301.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I do agree that this
doesn’t seem intuitively to be the intent of the standard, however
between what is suggested within 90.1, the LEED handbook, and the LEED credit
templates – I honestly can’t see any clear indication either way on
which is the appropriate interpretation. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I think the appropriate
metric for ensuring appropriately sized systems should be something like:
“hours of the modeled year in which at least one zone has an unmet
cooling/heating load,” but I think that was avoided by all
concerned parties because it’s too wordy!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>My acting
interpretation, again referencing your example, is that all systems of your 301
zone example affecting the zones with unmet cooling/heating hours should have
their heating/cooling/overall sizing capacity ratios increased incrementally
until the design hours fall below 300 (and/or within 50 of the sum from the
other model, depending on your situation).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Afraid I’m
only really adding to the discussion here without providing a solid
answer. Would like to echo the desire to see anyone’s experiences
that would help us know the “right” way to interpret this (in my
case, specifically in the context of a LEED submittal).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Crockett, Jim<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, October 26, 2009
4:27 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Bldg-sim] Ashrae 90.1 -
Unmet hours<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Ashrae 90.1 (2004) Appendix G3.1.2.2 requires a
baseline building to have less than 300 unmet hours. What exactly does
this mean?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>To illustrate my question: assume you have a
building with 301 zones, and each zone has 1 unmet hour per year. This
gives you a total of 301 unmet hours, and requires you to increase your
baseline equipment capacity. But you could argue that, on average, the
building has only 1 unmet hour per year.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Have any of you run into this? Is it addressed
in an addendum somewhere, etc?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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