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class=776174612-06082009>Sorry I haven't any data with EnergyPlus. The only
thing I know is that EnergyPlus is able to understand that the radiation is
passing through both glass layers of the DSF and that now you have the "small"
CFD which you can couple to the usual thermal simulation in E+ but I haven't try
it. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=776174612-06082009>I think I will follow my idea to create a model in
Equest and model the DSF in E+. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=776174612-06082009>Do you think it is a good idea for LEED documentation
to make a simulation with Fluent? Because I don't think we will be able to make
a wind tunnel test (too expensive).</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=776174612-06082009>Regards</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>De :</B> Marques da Silva [mailto:fms@lnec.pt]
<BR><B>Envoyé :</B> 6 août 2009 04:50<BR><B>À :</B> Paul
Erickson<BR><B>Cc :</B> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org; Gal,
Amandine<BR><B>Objet :</B> Re: [Bldg-sim] LEED: modelling a double
façade<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Hi Paul and Amandine<BR><BR>I am working for some time on DSF and I
had data both from buildigs and test cells. Now I have a student using En+
trying to match the collected data (test cell) and there are some problems. If
you have some published or useable results I would appreciate.
<BR><BR>Regards<BR><BR>Fernando<BR>
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<DIV>Amandine,</DIV>
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<DIV>We have had success (with a ventilated facade DSF configuration) using an
approach similar to what you're proposing. The challenge with it and
other configurations depends on the interaction of the DSF and the building
spaces. We coupled eQUEST, TRNSYS, COMIS, and wind tunnel test data to
achieve what seems to be a reasonable solution, especially for the purposes of
a cost analysis and LEED documentation.</DIV>
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<DIV>Regards,</DIV>
<DIV><BR>Paul</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Paul Erickson</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Sustainable Practice Leader</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>303.859.7523 - c</FONT></DIV><BR><BR>>>> "Gal,
Amandine" <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E
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8/5/2009 1:24 PM >>><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=228042118-05082009><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dear all,
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=228042118-05082009></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=228042118-05082009><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am modelling a
building with Equest and I would like to know as Equest is not so efficient
modelling passive system if I can use EnergyPlus for the double-façade
only and after add the results of E+ to the one of Equest.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=228042118-05082009><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks
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