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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Yes, I think when you can verify the permanence of the shading
structure the USGBC should be more lenient in the allowing credit for the
shading (especially since the argument is that it may not be there in the
future)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'>Robert
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color:#1F497D'>Suite 302<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> surekha tetali
[mailto:surekhatetali@gmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 04, 2009 1:36 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Robert Gengelbach<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Chris Yates; bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] A90.1 local buildings<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hello,<br>
<br>
Through our experience of a couple of projects, we would suggest that the
project should be credited when there is considerable saving through the
shading of local buildings/structures.<br>
Please find an appropriate view over this issue at: <br>
<a
href="http://greenbuildinggenie.com/tips/item/13-neighborhood-building-shading">http://greenbuildinggenie.com/tips/item/13-neighborhood-building-shading</a><br>
<br>
This site seems to be cataloging all such issues as either Hot Tips or Hot
Issue. I find the collection quite informative . <br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Surekha Tetali.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Robert Gengelbach <<a
href="mailto:rgengelbach@sustainablemech.com">rgengelbach@sustainablemech.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>During a EAc1 training seminar
put on by the USGBC I distinctly remember them saying that you shouldn’t
account for shading from other structures, there is no way to be sure that the
other structure will remain for the life of the building that you are modeling.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'>Robert
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<p><b><span style='font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D'>Sustainable
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<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>89 Monroe Center NW</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Suite 302</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Grand Rapids, MI 49503</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>P: (616) 776-9009</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>F: (616) 776-9010</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>C: (616) 570-2329</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><a
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<p><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:
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[mailto:<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris Yates<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 03, 2009 9:33 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org" target="_blank">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] A90.1 local buildings</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>A quick browse through appendix G doesn't
mention local buildings in the shading. Is it true local buildings aren't
considered in the shading calc for A90?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Chris Yates<o:p></o:p></p>
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