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<font size="2">If you look at LEED NC CIR ruling date 2/20/2009 you'll find a similar situation in a hospital, that was told to use PTACs. This is a situation I looked up a while ago. I modeled my special pressurization requirement rooms with PTACs quickly and saw the baseline used less energy than my proposed design with the chiller / boiler. I didn't go back to look into it in much, I've got that on my list to do. I can only think it was because the PTACs fan and coils cycle as needed and don't need to keep running like the chiller and boiler in the hospital. Anyone have any other insight into this?</font><br>
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----- Message from Vikram Sami <VSami@lasarchitect.com> on Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:22:42 -0400 -----</font>
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<b><font face="Arial">Exceptions to G3.1.1:</font></b>
<p> <font face="Arial">(c) If the baseline HVAC system type is 5, 6, 7, or 8, use separate</font>
<p><font face="Arial">single-zone systems conforming with the requirements</font>
<p><font face="Arial">of System 3 or System 4 (depending on building</font>
<p><font face="Arial">heat source) for any zones having special pressurization</font>
<p><font face="Arial">relationships, cross-contamination requirements, or code</font> <font face="Arial">required</font>
<p><font face="Arial">minimum circulation rates.</font>
<p><font face="Arial">I’m modeling a building that has baseline system 7.</font> <font face="Arial">If I read this correctly then all lab spaces will</font> <font face="Arial">have their own system and that system will conform to</font> <font face="Arial">system 3 from table g3.1.1A. Is that correct? If so</font> <font face="Arial">–</font> <font face="Arial">are all of my lab spaces going to be packaged single zone units? That doesn’t seem right</font> <font face="Arial">–</font> <font face="Arial">especially since lab spaces are more than 50% of the building area in this case. </font>
<p><font face="Arial">I’d appreciate anyone’s help with this.</font>
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<font face="Times New Roman">Vikram, you should follow the exception (c) if you have a few zones in a larger building that have special requirements, different from the bulk of the System 7. This I think would be intended for cold rooms, server rooms, etc.</font><br>
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<font face="Times New Roman">For your case with roughly 50% labs and 50% other, you may instead want to use the exception (a) to add a second system type in order to account for differences in space requirements between labs and other spaces.</font><br>
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<font face="Times New Roman">The design building is probably a good guide – if you are accomplishing your proposed design with one system, then you might find some way to use one system 7. If you have separate lab/office AHUs in the proposed design, then two systems under exception (a) may be called for.</font><br>
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<font face="Times New Roman">Depending on the size of the lab, you may end up with several System type 3 or 4 in the baseline, but for larger labs I think the intention would be to make two System 7’s.</font><br>
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<font face="Times New Roman">You may also want to look for the Labs21 guide to Appendix G which includes some other unrelated suggestions.</font><br>
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<b><font size="2" face="Tahoma">From:</font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] </font><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma">On Behalf Of </font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma">Vikram Sami</font><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><br>
Sent:</font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"> Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:23 PM</font><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><br>
To:</font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"> Bldg-Sim</font><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><br>
Subject:</font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"> [Bldg-sim] Appendix G Zoning</font><br>
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<p><b><font face="Arial">Exceptions to G3.1.1:</font></b>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><font face="Arial">(c) If the baseline HVAC system type is 5, 6, 7, or 8, use separate</font>
<p><font face="Arial">single-zone systems conforming with the requirements</font>
<p><font face="Arial">of System 3 or System 4 (depending on building</font>
<p><font face="Arial">heat source) for any zones having special pressurization</font>
<p><font face="Arial">relationships, cross-contamination requirements, or code</font><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><font face="Arial">required</font>
<p><font face="Arial">minimum circulation rates.</font>
<p><font face="Arial">I’m modeling a building that has baseline system 7.</font><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><font face="Arial">If I read this correctly then all lab spaces will</font><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><font face="Arial">have their own system and that system will conform to</font><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><font face="Arial">system 3 from table g3.1.1A. Is that correct? If so</font><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><font face="Arial">–</font><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><font face="Arial">are all of my lab spaces going to be packaged single zone units? That doesn’t seem right</font><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><font face="Arial">–</font><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><font face="Arial">especially since lab spaces are more than 50% of the building area in this case. </font>
<p><font face="Arial">I’d appreciate anyone’s help with this.</font>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><i>(See attached file: Labs21 - Appendix G for Laboratories.pdf)</i><font size="2" color="#800080"><br>
----- Message from "David Reddy" <davidr@madisonengineeringps.com> on Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:27:10 -0700 -----</font>
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<font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri">USGBC also has provided some guidance on the appropriate baseline system for large laboratories via a few CIRs. Specifically LEED-NC CIR rulings dated on:</font><br>
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<b><font size="2" face="Tahoma">From:</font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] </font><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma">On Behalf Of </font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma">Vikram Sami</font><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><br>
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<p><b><font face="Arial">Exceptions to G3.1.1:</font></b>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><font face="Arial">(c) If the baseline HVAC system type is 5, 6, 7, or 8, use separate</font>
<p><font face="Arial">single-zone systems conforming with the requirements</font>
<p><font face="Arial">of System 3 or System 4 (depending on building</font>
<p><font face="Arial">heat source) for any zones having special pressurization</font>
<p><font face="Arial">relationships, cross-contamination requirements, or code</font><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><font face="Arial">required</font>
<p><font face="Arial">minimum circulation rates.</font>
<p><font face="Arial">I’m modeling a building that has baseline system 7.</font><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><font face="Arial">If I read this correctly then all lab spaces will</font><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><font face="Arial">have their own system and that system will conform to</font><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><font face="Arial">system 3 from table g3.1.1A. Is that correct? If so</font><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><font face="Arial">–</font><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><font face="Arial">are all of my lab spaces going to be packaged single zone units? That doesn’t seem right</font><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><font face="Arial">–</font><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><font face="Arial">especially since lab spaces are more than 50% of the building area in this case. </font>
<p><font face="Arial">I’d appreciate anyone’s help with this.</font>
<p><font face="Arial">Thanks</font>
<p><b><font face="Garamond">Vikram Sami,</font></b><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><font face="Garamond">LEED AP<br>
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<font face="Calibri">Hi All,</font><br>
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<font face="Calibri">Does anyone know where I can find a list of BESTTEST certified Building Energy Simulation software?</font><br>
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<font face="Calibri">I can only find that Energy Plus has done the test, but not that it is BESTTest certified?</font><br>
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<font face="Calibri">What about TAS 8.5, does anyone know where the BESTTest certification is?</font><br>
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<tt><font size="2">All the EnergyPlus testing reports are posted on the EnergyPlus web site: <br>
</font></tt><tt><font size="2"><a href="http://energyplus.gov/testing.cfm">http://energyplus.gov/testing.cfm</a></font></tt><tt><font size="2"><br>
ASHRAE Standard 140-2007 incorporates many of the IEA BESTest methods. IEA<br>
does not certify software--just provides tests.<br>
<br>
Linda<br>
EnergyPlus Development Team<br>
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----- Message from Michael Donn <Michael.Donn@vuw.ac.nz> on Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:26:20 +1200 -----</font>
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<font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri">Hi Ross</font><br>
<font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri"> </font><br>
<font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri">Typically the vendors publish their BESTEST data online. The BESTEST system is one of self-certification, not a central authorising body….. (see </font><a href="http://www.iea-shc.org/task34/index.html"><u><font color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">http://www.iea-shc.org/task34/index.html</font></u></a><font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri"> )</font><br>
<font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri"> </font><br>
<font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri">ASHRAE Standard 140 incorporates some of the IEA BESTEST suite and I understand over time will incorporate more. (</font><a href="http://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy06osti/40360.pdf"><u><font color="#0000FF" face="Calibri">http://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy06osti/40360.pdf</font></u></a><font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri"> )</font><br>
<font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri"> </font><br>
<font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri">I am not aware that ASHRAE ‘certify’ software in the way you seek.</font><br>
<font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri"> </font><br>
<font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri">m</font><br>
<font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri"> </font><br>
<font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri"> </font><br>
<font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri"> </font><br>
<font color="#1F497D" face="Times New Roman">Michael Donn <br>
Director Centre for Building Performance Research<br>
School of Architecture <br>
Victoria University +64 4 463 6221 work<br>
PO Box 600 +64 21 611 280 mobile<br>
Wellington +64 4 463 6204 work fax<br>
New Zealand +64 21 611 594 mobilefax</font><br>
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<b><font size="2" face="Tahoma">From:</font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] </font><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma">On Behalf Of </font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma">Harding, Ross</font><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><br>
Sent:</font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"> Thursday, 18 June 2009 2:10 p.m.</font><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><br>
To:</font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</font><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><br>
Subject:</font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"> [Bldg-sim] BESTTEST Certification</font><br>
<font face="Calibri"> </font><br>
<font face="Calibri">Hi All,</font><br>
<font face="Calibri"> </font><br>
<font face="Calibri">Does anyone know where I can find a list of BESTTEST certified Building Energy Simulation software?</font><br>
<font face="Calibri"> </font><br>
<font face="Calibri">I can only find that Energy Plus has done the test, but not that it is BESTTest certified?</font><br>
<font face="Calibri"> </font><br>
<font face="Calibri">What about TAS 8.5, does anyone know where the BESTTest certification is?</font><br>
<font face="Calibri"> </font><br>
<font size="2" face="Arial"><br>
Regards<br>
</font><b><font size="2" face="Arial"><br>
Ross Harding</font></b><font size="2" face="Arial"><br>
Environmental Design Consultant<br>
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Phone +61 2 8907 0900<br>
Direct +61 2 8907 0953</font><u><font size="2" color="#0000FF" face="Arial"><br>
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----- Message from leen peeters <l.f.r.peeters@gmail.com> on Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:51:02 +0200 -----</font>
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<tr valign="top"><td width="12%" valign="middle"><div align="right"><b>Subject:</b></div></td><td width="88%" valign="middle">[Bldg-sim] conversion factors electricity primary energy</td></tr>
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Dear,<br>
<br>
could anyone help me out with conversion factors primary energy to electricity for Canada and Italy?<br>
<br>
Thanks!<br>
<br>
Leen<font size="2" color="#800080"><br>
----- Message from "Allison Coley" <Allison.Coley@cjmw.com> on Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:10:03 -0400 -----</font>
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<tr valign="top"><td width="22%" valign="middle"><div align="right"><b>Subject:</b></div></td><td width="78%" valign="middle">[Bldg-sim] VRV / VRF systems</td></tr>
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<font face="Calibri">Hello, </font><br>
<font face="Calibri"> </font><br>
<font face="Calibri">We are in the very early stages of a project and are weighing the pros/cons of a VRV/VRF system vs. geothermal. Any general lessons learned with using VRV/VRF systems, or pros/cons of certain software packages in modeling them for demonstrated energy savings? </font><br>
<font face="Calibri"> </font><br>
<font face="Calibri">Thanks,</font><br>
<font face="Calibri"> </font><br>
<font face="Calibri">Allison</font><font size="2" color="#800080"><br>
----- Message from "Marcus Sheffer" <sheffer@energyopportunities.com> on Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:46:20 -0400 -----</font>
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<font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri">I believe EnergyPro can model these systems.</font><br>
<font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri"> </font><br>
<font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri">Marcus Sheffer</font><br>
<font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri">7group</font><br>
<font color="#1F497D" face="Calibri"> </font><br>
<b><font size="2" face="Tahoma">From:</font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [<a href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] </font><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma">On Behalf Of </font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma">Allison Coley</font><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><br>
Sent:</font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"> Thursday, June 18, 2009 9:10 AM</font><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><br>
To:</font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</font><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><br>
Subject:</font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"> [Bldg-sim] VRV / VRF systems</font><br>
<font face="Times New Roman"> </font><br>
<font face="Calibri">Hello, </font><br>
<font face="Calibri"> </font><br>
<font face="Calibri">We are in the very early stages of a project and are weighing the pros/cons of a VRV/VRF system vs. geothermal. Any general lessons learned with using VRV/VRF systems, or pros/cons of certain software packages in modeling them for demonstrated energy savings? </font><br>
<font face="Calibri"> </font><br>
<font face="Calibri">Thanks,</font><br>
<font face="Calibri"> </font><br>
<font face="Calibri">Allison</font><font size="2" color="#800080"><br>
----- Message from Julia Beabout <juliabeabout@yahoo.com> on Thu, 18 Jun 2009 07:41:12 -0700 (PDT) -----</font>
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<font size="2" face="Arial">Hi Allison</font><br>
<font size="2" face="Arial">Trace 700 can model VRV/VRF systems.</font><br>
<font size="2" face="Arial">I haven't tried in Trace before, but, looks pretty easy.</font><br>
<font size="2" face="Arial"> </font><br>
<font size="2" face="Arial">Julia</font><br>
<br>
<hr width="100%" size="2" align="left"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma">From:</font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"> Allison Coley <Allison.Coley@cjmw.com></font><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><br>
To:</font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</font><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><br>
Sent:</font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"> Thursday, June 18, 2009 9:10:03 AM</font><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><br>
Subject:</font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"> [Bldg-sim] VRV / VRF systems</font><font face="Times"><br>
</font><br>
<font face="Calibri">Hello, </font>
<p><font face="Calibri"> </font>
<p><font face="Calibri">We are in the very early stages of a project and are weighing the pros/cons of a VRV/VRF system vs. geothermal. Any general lessons learned with using VRV/VRF systems, or pros/cons of certain software packages in modeling them for demonstrated energy savings? </font>
<p><font face="Calibri"> </font>
<p><font face="Calibri">Thanks,</font>
<p><font face="Calibri"> </font>
<p><font face="Calibri">Allison</font><font size="2" color="#800080"><br>
----- Message from "Cramer Silkworth" <silkworth@transsolar.com> on Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:07:20 +0200 -----</font>
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<font size="2" color="#0000FF" face="Arial">Awhile ago I found a lot of this type info on Natural Resources Canada's energy webpage: </font><br>
<a href="http://nrcan.gc.ca/eneene/statstat/index-eng.php"><u><font size="2" color="#0000FF" face="Arial">http://nrcan.gc.ca/eneene/statstat/index-eng.php</font></u></a><a href="http://www.nrcan-rncan.gc.ca/com/eneene/index-eng.php"></a> <br>
<br>
<font size="2" color="#0000FF" face="Arial">it's huge, but maybe some strategic searching will get you to PE factors</font> <br>
<br>
<font size="2" color="#0000FF" face="Arial">-Cramer</font> <br>
<br>
<font size="1" face="Arial">J. Cramer Silkworth</font> <br>
<font size="1" face="Arial">Transsolar Inc.</font> <br>
<font size="1" face="Arial">Technical consulting for energy efficiency and user comfort in buildings. Stuttgart - Munich - New York</font> <br>
<font size="1" face="Arial">134 Spring Street Suite 601</font> <br>
<font size="1" face="Arial">New York, NY 10012</font> <br>
<font size="1" face="Arial">212-219-2255</font> <br>
<a href="mailto:silkworth@transsolar.com"><u><font size="1" color="#0000FF" face="Arial">silkworth@transsolar.com</font></u></a> <br>
<br>
<hr width="100%" size="2" align="left"> <b><font size="2" face="Tahoma">From:</font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"> leen peeters [<a href="mailto:l.f.r.peeters@gmail.com">mailto:l.f.r.peeters@gmail.com</a>] </font><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><br>
Sent:</font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"> Thursday, June 18, 2009 6:51 AM</font><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><br>
To:</font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</font><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><br>
Subject:</font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"> [Bldg-sim] conversion factors electricity primary energy</font><br>
<p>Dear,
<p> <br>
could anyone help me out with conversion factors primary energy to electricity for Canada and Italy? <br>
<br>
Thanks! <br>
<br>
Leen <font size="2" color="#800080"><br>
----- Message from eric wang <shaojieworld2006@yahoo.com> on Thu, 18 Jun 2009 08:53:40 -0700 (PDT) -----</font>
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<tr valign="top"><td width="9%" valign="middle"><div align="right"><b>Subject:</b></div></td><td width="91%" valign="middle">[Bldg-sim] Chilled Water Meter and Utility Rate</td></tr>
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<tr valign="top"><td width="100%">Hi,<br>
<br>
I created a chilled water meter and its utility rate. For the utility rate, all parameters are either left blank or undefined except taxes are set to base. After exporting the DOE2 sim report, I found there is still a charge for chiller water meter. Does anyone know why the charge is not zero for the chilled water meter?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Shaojie</td></tr>
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