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<DIV><SPAN class=370393418-08062009><FONT face=Univers color=#0000ff
size=2>Without further context, the answer to your question would be: as much
time and money as any other building. I think the whole point of Langdon's
study is that LEED is NOT a differentiator of building costs. LEED
buildings cost as little as $200/sf and as much as $600/sf.
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<DIV><SPAN class=370393418-08062009><FONT face=Univers color=#0000ff size=2>If
you want, you can determine the cost of "certification" alone from the USGBC
website based on sf, and add the time required for USGBC's LEED documentation
review to the project schedule.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>P.
Hay<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 08, 2009 2:33 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
sheffer@energyopportunities.com; Bldg-Sim<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Bldg-sim] Cost
of LEED certification<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Thanks for the links
Marcus. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">I have scanned the Langdon
document and even looked at later articles written on the topic. They
agree that the Langdon study is more comprehensive but still gravitate towards
the costing provided by the American Chemistry Council. My take on the matter is
that the real issue here is not whether LEED certification costs more, but how
much does it cost: both in terms of time and expense.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Paul Hay<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Managing
Partner<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">PAUL HAY Capital
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<P class=MsoNormal><I><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Strategic Facility Planning
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">15a Cassia Park
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Kingston
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Jamaica,
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">tel: 1 (876)
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">cel: 1 (876)
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">web:
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">e-mail:
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Marcus
Sheffer<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 08, 2009 11:39 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
paul.hay@phcjamaica.com; Bldg-Sim<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Bldg-sim] Cost of LEED
certification<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Anyone’s first LEED project
requires an investment of time to learn how to do it. This learning curve
is somewhat steep but once you learn how to do, actually doing it takes
considerably less time. Outside soft costs (commissioning, energy modeling
and LEED documentation) if you are spending a dime more for construction costs
than conventional for LEED Certified or Silver then you have made an optional
choice or are not properly applying the system. Many projects attain the
Gold certification level without an increase in construction costs.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">There have been several cost
studies over the years than do not show that LEED requires the type of
investment purported by the American Chemistry Council. Here are some
links:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><A
href="http://www.cap-e.com/publications/default.cfm">http://www.cap-e.com/publications/default.cfm</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><A
href="http://www.davislangdon.com/USA/Research/ResearchFinder/2007-The-Cost-of-Green-Revisited/">http://www.davislangdon.com/USA/Research/ResearchFinder/2007-The-Cost-of-Green-Revisited/</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">The Davis Langdon study above is
far more thorough and comprehensive than the much older ACC report which relies
on a considerable amount of early anecdotal evidence.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">In many respects the cost of
LEED comes down to what you assign to LEED as an “extra” cost. Many teams
have figured out how to neutralize even the added soft costs through an
integrative design process. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Marcus
Sheffer<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">7group <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>P.
Hay<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 08, 2009 11:36 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
Bldg-Sim<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Bldg-sim] Cost of LEED
certification<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>I recall someone once asked about the time needed to be spent
on LEED certification. Well, I have just come across a report prepared by
Northbridge Environmental Management Consultants
<http://www.nbenvironmental.com> entitled <U>Analyzing the Cost of
obtaining LEED Certification</U>, which is available online at the following
link: <o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><A
href="http://www.cleanair-coolplanet.org/for_communities/LEED_links/AnalyzingtheCostofLEED.pdf">http://www.cleanair-coolplanet.org/for_communities/LEED_links/AnalyzingtheCostofLEED.pdf</A><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>It indicates that the documentation takes 226 working hours
on average to prepare and costs between US$8,000 - US$70,000 per project: the
first project costing between US$30,000 - US$60,000.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Paul Hay<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Managing Partner<o:p></o:p></P>
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