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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Paul without seeing the articles
to which you refer I really can’t comment about the comparison of the
studies. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Regarding cost and LEED I can
offer my own personal experience on more than 100 commercial projects pursuing
LEED certification – none has even come close to approaching the bottom
end of the cost range in the ACC study. I have no doubt that some
projects are spending 4.5% to 11% more but frankly they are using LEED the
wrong way (as a checklist of independent variables in a point hunting exercise)
and the market will weed those practitioners out over time. All things
being equal LEED does add cost but it is only the measuring tool. The
real question is does a high performance green building cost more? If
done correctly my experience is that it does not.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>We are currently working on a
school project which is borderline Platinum. It was bid last summer and
came in significantly <u>under</u> budget and attracted a $500,000 state grant.
So the actual cost is less than conventional overall even without the grant.
Project cost drivers are primarily a function of building type and location.
Within those broad categories it is about design choices, one can choose to
focus resources on building performance or on other priorities. Project
teams who choose to focus on the priorities spelled out in LEED can easily do
so within the confines of a conventional project budget. The rest is just
a bit of paperwork.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The first time that an
architectural firm had to use CAD drawings instead of hand-drawn; the first
time they had to comply with ADA; when major building code changes occur –
all of these things resulted in added costs. As experience is gained
costs come down significantly and the same thing is happening with LEED (the
ACC study indicates that this was likely to happen).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The real answer to your question
is - “it depends” – on many factors including team
experience, priorities, project size, strategies, design process, etc. You
really can’t assume it costs more but if you do, it probably will.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Marcus Sheffer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>7group<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> P. Hay
[mailto:phay@cwjamaica.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 08, 2009 2:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Marcus Sheffer; Bldg-Sim<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Bldg-sim] Cost of LEED certification<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks for the links
Marcus. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I have scanned the Langdon
document and even looked at later articles written on the topic. They
agree that the Langdon study is more comprehensive but still gravitate towards
the costing provided by the American Chemistry Council. My take on the matter
is that the real issue here is not whether LEED certification costs more, but
how much does it cost: both in terms of time and expense.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Paul Hay<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Managing Partner<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>PAUL HAY Capital Projects<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>15a Cassia Park Road<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Kingston 10<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Jamaica, W.I.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>tel: 1 (876) 756-0631<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>e-mail: paul.hay@phcjamaica.com<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Marcus
Sheffer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 08, 2009 11:39 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> paul.hay@phcjamaica.com; Bldg-Sim<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] Cost of LEED certification<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Anyone’s first LEED
project requires an investment of time to learn how to do it. This
learning curve is somewhat steep but once you learn how to do, actually doing
it takes considerably less time. Outside soft costs (commissioning,
energy modeling and LEED documentation) if you are spending a dime more for
construction costs than conventional for LEED Certified or Silver then you have
made an optional choice or are not properly applying the system. Many
projects attain the Gold certification level without an increase in
construction costs. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>There have been several cost
studies over the years than do not show that LEED requires the type of
investment purported by the American Chemistry Council. Here are some
links:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><a
href="http://www.cap-e.com/publications/default.cfm">http://www.cap-e.com/publications/default.cfm</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><a
href="http://www.davislangdon.com/USA/Research/ResearchFinder/2007-The-Cost-of-Green-Revisited/">http://www.davislangdon.com/USA/Research/ResearchFinder/2007-The-Cost-of-Green-Revisited/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The Davis Langdon study above is
far more thorough and comprehensive than the much older ACC report which relies
on a considerable amount of early anecdotal evidence.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>In many respects the cost of
LEED comes down to what you assign to LEED as an “extra”
cost. Many teams have figured out how to neutralize even the added soft
costs through an integrative design process. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Marcus Sheffer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>7group <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>P. Hay<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 08, 2009 11:36 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bldg-Sim<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] Cost of LEED certification<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>I recall someone once asked about the time needed to be
spent on LEED certification. Well, I have just come across a report
prepared by Northbridge Environmental Management Consultants
<http://www.nbenvironmental.com> entitled <u>Analyzing the Cost of
obtaining LEED Certification</u>, which is available online at the following
link: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><a
href="http://www.cleanair-coolplanet.org/for_communities/LEED_links/AnalyzingtheCostofLEED.pdf">http://www.cleanair-coolplanet.org/for_communities/LEED_links/AnalyzingtheCostofLEED.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>It indicates that the documentation takes 226 working hours
on average to prepare and costs between US$8,000 - US$70,000 per project: the
first project costing between US$30,000 - US$60,000.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Paul Hay<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Managing Partner<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>PAUL HAY Capital Projects<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i>Strategic Facility Planning and Implementation<o:p></o:p></i></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>15a Cassia Park Road<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Kingston 10<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Jamaica, W.I.<o:p></o:p></p>
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