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JRR wrote;<br>
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I won an ASME regional design contest prize with my Solar House
design, a graduating<br>
semester design project. It was later fully detailed and built in
1986. We moved in Jan<br>
1987. It is basically a LEED Platinum building, one story with
finished basement, 2x6<br>
studs 24 OC upstairs with 1" XPS sheathing, brick vernier 100%, etc.<br>
<br>
The main surprises vis a vis air infiltration were / are<br>
<br>
1) The porosity of the above grade basement CMUs allowing air
infiltration.<br>
2) The top or finish course of CMUs was not always sealed from an
air infiltration<br>
point of view and many of these CMU cores were hidden behind
finish dry wall<br>
for years.<br>
3)The air return duct through the attic even though sealed with
metal tape and covered<br>
with R-25 batts was not sealed to the attic penetration / wood
surround for years.<br>
4) One bathroom had an outside wall stud space with no insulation
at all - it contained<br>
the plumbing vent stack. The framing crew and insulation crews
thought we were <br>
'over insulated' and just didn't need it.<br>
5) None of the plumbing stacks were sealed at the attic penetration
on the outside<br>
by the work crews.<br>
6) The Active Solar plumbing penetrations were not sealed at the
attic penetration<br>
by the work crews.<br>
7) Rodentia bent the clothes dryer outside vent flap so severely
that it would not close<br>
completely on its own, but we never had mice enter the house via
this access.<br>
8) Conventional plumbing stack boots, black rubber, were utterly
destroyed by the<br>
heat from the Active Solar pipes. We made silicon rubber
fittings to replace them.<br>
We run an oversquare ( more sq ft collector than gal of tankage
) system with 6/12<br>
slope 20 degrees W of S at ~ 38:45 N. We use the active system
for more than<br>
domestic hot water. Since we sabotaged the evil tempering valve <span
class="moz-smiley-s8"><span> =-O </span></span><br>
we have all metal bodied valves through out the house and a
stainless steel tub on the<br>
dishwasher.<br>
9) None of these problems was detected by a military grade IR video
shot from outside<br>
the house in freezing cold weather. IR shot inside the attic
was extremely revealing.<br>
10) Leak testing has to be done during windy weather -- the leaks
act in concert., and<br>
CFD considerations show that differing pressures exist at
specific locations.<br>
<br>
Our all electric bill for 4500 sq ft this last December was $72.00<br>
<br>
We are developing a new version of this house with architectural as
well as energy improvements.<br>
<br>
John R Ross III PE<br>
Westwind Corporation<br>
Vienna, VA 22182-1958<br>
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and end
just use "<i><span style="font-style: italic;">undefined"</span></i> to
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building
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