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color:#1F497D'>From my experience the <i>Seattle Energy Code</i> (as opposed to
the Washington State Energy Code) gets you pretty close to the two point
requirement for typical commercial buildings; maybe in the 11-12% savings
range. Then if you tack on a couple of not-too-harsh measures you can get to
the threshold. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>It has actually been a little disappointing (from the view point
of an energy-conservation-dork, not of course from a consultant providing a
service to a client) to see that some barely-better-than-code buildings slide
by the minimum efficiency requirements and then call it a day. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Nathan Miller</span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Senior
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bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark Nieman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:20 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tim Dion; bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] LEED EaC1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>I would agree that a Washington State Energy Code Minimum
building will not likely get you a point in NC 2.2 EA Cr 1. I've seen
savings in the 5-10% range for office buildings with similar system types and
conventional lighting densities and controls. I believe EA Cr 1
(correctly) encourages more innovation than just a simple HVAC system selection
over another that meets code minimum. You really need an integrated design
approach to achieve EA Cr 1 (envelope upgrades, lighting upgrades including
controls, HVAC upgrades, etc.).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Franklin Gothic Book","sans-serif"'>Mark
Nieman, PE, CEM | McKinstry | Sr. Energy Engineer</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Franklin Gothic Book","sans-serif"'>d
206.832.8152 | m 206.510.4760 | f 206.832.8552</span> <br>
<span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Franklin Gothic Book","sans-serif";
color:#474747'>FOR THE</span><b> </b><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Franklin Gothic Book","sans-serif";color:#365F91'>LIFE</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Franklin Gothic Book","sans-serif";
color:#474747'> OF YOUR BUILDING</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tim Dion<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 27, 2009 8:47 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] LEED EaC1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I've
been hearing from a number of sources that you can get 2 EaC1 LEED points under
NC 2.2 just by modeling a State Code Building against an ASHRAE Appendix G
Baseline building.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>This
has not been the case with any of the LEED simulations I've done with eQuest.
Typically a Washington Energy Code 2006 building against an ASHRAE Appendix G
building comes in with an energy cost reduction of about 5%, which doesn't
achieve 1 point. This is typically with a Design system consisting
of WSHPs served by a central condenser water plant with dual condensing
boilers and a fluid cooler vs a Baseline system consisting of PSZ DX Cooling,
Gas Furnace Heat. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I'm
curious what others have experienced in this regards.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Tim Dion, LEED® AP <br>
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Suite 1000 <br>
Seattle, WA 98101 <br>
<a href="http://www.hargis.biz/"><span style='color:gray;text-decoration:none'>www.hargis.biz</span></a>
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