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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Table G3.1, No. 6(d) states: “Lighting
system power shall include all lighting system components shown or provided for
on the plans (including lamps and ballasts and task and furniture-mounted
fixtures). <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Exception:</span></b> For
multifamily living units, hotel/motel guest rooms, and other spaces in which lighting
systems are connected via receptacles and are not shown or provided for on
building plans, assume identical lighting power for the <i><span
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italic'>baseline designs</span></i> in the simulations, but exclude these loads
when calculating the <i><span style='font-style:italic'>baseline building
performance</span></i> and <i><span style='font-style:italic'>proposed building
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The way I would implement this is to
assign the same W/ft<sup>2</sup> lighting to all dorm rooms on a different
meter in both the baseline and proposed designs. Then I would subtract the kWh
of that meter from the building performance. You could still show lighting
savings if you do the space-by-space method for both designs (assuming the
lighting in your corridors and common areas is efficient).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Howe, Timothy<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, November 20, 2008
4:10 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Bldg-sim] Dormitory LPD</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Sim-users,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I have a dormitory with something like 3/4
dorms and the rest support areas.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>My question is:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>ASHRAE 90.1-2004 calls for in the building
wide approach for lpd to be 1.0 w/sf for dorms.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Now if there are wall switched fixed
lights called for on the electrical lighting plans in the dorm rooms
but have only a small w/sf contribution, can I really do a building
wide lpd calc and claim the savings shown on the plans??</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Any suggestions??</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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