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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This is an important question. I am not
aware of a definitive answer. I just looked at 90.1-2004, 90.1-2007 and the
User&#8217;s Manuals for both. I see no change in 2007 specific to how to
determine the equipment efficiencies.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I agree that if you determine efficiency
by the baseline equipment size, you generally end up using better efficiencies
for the baseline equipment. As you mentioned, this is because you are required
to model one system per zone. At the same time, when you determine fan power
based on the baseline equipment size, you use higher kW/cfm. I am finding that,
because of this, my models rarely show cooling energy savings, and usually show
huge amounts of heating energy savings. (Baseline furnaces are 80% efficient
and my proposed systems approach 95%. Also, the buildings I model are mostly in
NY &#8211; high heating hours. I often have heat recovery systems, which also
help with the heating but not much with cooling.)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>So, for know, it makes sense to me to determine
the baseline efficiencies and fan energies from the oversized (10%/25%)
baseline capacities. Knowing this, I have to avoid the tendency to model every
single space on the architectural drawings, and try bundling them better into zones.
(Make all the spaces served by one VAV box a single zone. Make all the spaces
served by a single-zone system one large zone, unless the uses and orientations
differ greatly. Etc.)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Kevin Kyte
[mailto:kkyte@robsonwoese.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, November 13, 2008
1:49 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Bishop,
 Bill</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Aulbach, John<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Bldg-sim] EER to EIR
Conversion for LEED Baseline</span></font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>My apologies but I must bring this up
again, I get too easily confused.&nbsp; My questions pertain specifically for
getting EIR baseline for budget system 3 or any budget system with Packaged
Single Zones.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I am unclear on what capacity to use to
get baseline efficiencies.&nbsp; Generally, the proposed capacity of an
air-side system will serve multiply thermal zones but the baseline requires
systems for each thermal zone.&nbsp; This creates base system capacities much
lower depending on zoning and appears that it may unfairly penalize depending
on how the zoning is done.&nbsp; If a proposed system capacity is between
240,000 and 760,000 then would all baseline systems require a 9.3 EER or
because all single packaged zones have a baseline capacity of less than 65,000,
should baseline single packaged systems be 12.0 EER?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Secondly, it would appear more timely to
generate baseline kW/CFM and EIR based on proposed parameters and then input
these numbers to each packaged single zone corresponding to its proposed
air-side system.&nbsp; Although more favorable numbers may be obtained using
baseline parameters.&nbsp; So if I am Calc&#8217;ing individual packaged single
zone EIRs and I cannot subtract the fan power found using proposed air-side
system CFM numbers but CFM numbers found from the baseline modeling reports and
also capacities found from autosized baseline modeling reports.&nbsp; Any
thoughts?&nbsp; Thanks.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Kevin<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Bishop, Bill</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:bbishop@PathfinderEngineers.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, November 06, 2008
4:52 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Kevin Kyte<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Aulbach, John<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Bldg-sim] EER to EIR
Conversion for LEED Baseline<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Kevin,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>What is your reasoning for sizing the baseline that way? Why
wouldn&#8217;t you just autosize the baseline and increase by 15%/25%?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>In eQUEST, what is the difference between these two methods:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Specifying 1.15 and 1.25 for the cooling and heating capacity
ratios, respectively, without entering any numbers for capacities, and using
the resulting energy consumption<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Going back and manually entering the capacities that the program
reports and running the program again<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>For the EIR, I determine what efficiency to use based on the
oversized baseline capacity, but I could be convinced to size it on the 1.00
autosized capacity instead.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Kevin Kyte<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, November 06, 2008
4:28 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Aulbach, John;
bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bldg-sim] EER to EIR
Conversion for LEED Baseline</span></font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>And the baseline EIR should include the
wattage calc&#8217;d from G.3.1.2.9?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Backing up for a moment, there is a
funny way to determine the oversizing capacities, especially for PSZs.&nbsp;
Here goes:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Run the design model with design
capacity, run the design model autosized, find the ratio.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Run the baseline model autosized, apply
the ratio.&nbsp; Now oversize for 15% cooling and 25% for heating.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Does anybody do this differently,
because the fine print doesn&#8217;t exactly say that much. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Aulbach, John [mailto:jaulbach@nexant.com]
<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, November 06, 2008
4:05 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Kevin Kyte;
bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [Bldg-sim] EER to EIR
Conversion for LEED Baseline<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Kevin:</span></font><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I believe it is 15% oversize for cooling
and 25% for heating (Page 176 - Appendix G - ASHRAE-90.1-2004 - I don't have
2007 yet). This is aside from fan calculations.</span></font><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>This would apply to either package units
or central plant equipment, whichever is specified as baseline.</span></font><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";color:blue'>John R.
Aulbach, PE, CEM</span></font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><em><i><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Project Manager</span></font></i></em><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Nexant, Inc</span></font><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>.</span></font><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on"><font size=2
  face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>701 West Kimberly
  Ave., Suite 245</span></font></st1:address></st1:Street><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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  face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Placentia</span></font></st1:City><font
 size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>, <st1:State
 w:st="on">CA</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">92870-6342</st1:PostalCode>
 <st1:country-region w:st="on">USA</st1:country-region></span></font></st1:place><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Phone: 714-524-4402</span></font><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Fax: 714-524-4407</span></font><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>email: <a href="mailto:jaulbach@nexant.com"
title="mailto:jaulbach@nexant.com">jaulbach@nexant.com</a></span></font><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Kevin Kyte<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, November 06, 2008
12:54 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Bldg-sim] EER to EIR
Conversion for LEED Baseline</span></font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>All,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>When
you Calc your EIRs for baseline, do you use design capacities or oversized
baseline capacities?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Thank
you. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Kevin<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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