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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">And the baseline EIR should include the wattage calc&#8217;d from G.3.1.2.9?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Backing up for a moment, there is a funny way to determine the oversizing capacities, especially for PSZs.&nbsp; Here goes:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Run the design model with design capacity, run the design model autosized, find the ratio.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Run the baseline model autosized, apply the ratio.&nbsp; Now oversize for 15% cooling and 25% for heating.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Does anybody do this differently, because the fine print doesn&#8217;t exactly say that much.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Aulbach, John [mailto:jaulbach@nexant.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 06, 2008 4:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kevin Kyte; bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Bldg-sim] EER to EIR Conversion for LEED Baseline<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:blue">Kevin:</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:blue">I believe it is 15% oversize for cooling and 25% for heating (Page 176 - Appendix G - ASHRAE-90.1-2004 - I don't have 2007 yet). This is aside from fan calculations.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:blue">This would apply to either package units or central plant equipment, whichever is specified as baseline.</span><span style="font-size:
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color:blue">John R. Aulbach, PE, CEM</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kevin Kyte<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:54 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] EER to EIR Conversion for LEED Baseline</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">All,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">When you Calc your EIRs for baseline, do you use design capacities or oversized baseline capacities?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Kevin<o:p></o:p></p>
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