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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>FYI&#8230;this is documented in the
following report, and in the references that accompany the FCHART manual.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>http://esl.eslwin.tamu.edu/docs/documents/F-Chart%2008-04.pdf<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>There was also substantial work done in
the 1980s by Francis DeWinter at the Atlas Corporation, that included explicite
algorithms for modeling the combined heat loss.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>8=! &nbsp;8=)
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<p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>Jeff S.
Haberl, Ph.D.,P.E., FASHRAE..............<a
href="mailto:FASHRAE..............jhaberl@tamu.edu">jhaberl@tamu.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>Professor............................................................Office
Ph: 979-845-6507<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>Department of
Architecture.............................Lab Ph: 979-845-6065 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>Energy Systems
Laboratory.............................FAX: 979-862-2457 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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   color=navy><span style='color:navy'>University</span></font></st1:PlaceType></ns0:PlaceType></ns0:place><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'>.....................................77843-3581<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></p>

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  w:endInsDate="2008-11-05T17:03:00Z"><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'>USA,
  77843</span></font></ns0:country-region></ns0:place><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'>..................URL: www-esl.tamu.edu<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>8=/ &nbsp;8=)
&nbsp;:=) &nbsp;8=) &nbsp;;=) &nbsp;8=) &nbsp;8=() &nbsp;8=) &nbsp;:=)
&nbsp;8=) &nbsp;8=! &nbsp;8=) &nbsp;8=?&nbsp;8=) &nbsp;8=0 </span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Nuno Brandao<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, November 04, 2008
6:30 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Bldg-sim] Swimming Pool
Modelling</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Dear bldg members,<br>
<br>
I´m trying to execute a simulation approach on a swimming pool simulation using
EnergyPlus. I decided to write&nbsp; hoping you could give me some guidance
help on this kind of simulation approach since Energyplus does not have a model
for it.<br>
<br>
The objective would be to simulate the pool environment, accounting for all the
heat transfer phenomenons, heat losses, etc., but more important the
evaporation losses which must be treated with dehumidification equipment. The
space must be heated and dehumidified using a standard dehumidifier equipment.<br>
<br>
Defining the space and boundary conditions is not difficult using the current
geometry interfaces. At the end I would like to obtain the energy consumption
of HVAC equipment on treating the space loads (mainly dehumidification and
heating).<br>
<br>
Can you give me some guidance help on what have you done in your approach on
EnergyPlus? Is there any other software or application which is capable of
simulating this kind of model?<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance,<br>
Nuno<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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